Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mike340

How can we expect McNabb to succeed under the circumstances?

In Philly he read from short to long, here from long to short. WITH THIS OFFENSIVE LINE?
Even when he has time to throw it, he never has space to step into the throw (even if Rabach isn't stepping on his foot!)
The fact that they don't call many intermediate routes I consider an epic fail under the circumstances, especially on 2nd and long. I'm tired of seeing either the attempt to win the lottery (bomb) or the screen pass where the ball arrives at the same time as the unblocked defender.

They've also asked him to change his throwing mechanics.

My old violin teacher always told me that if you don't like the mechanics of the way someone plays, but they get good results out of it, you DON'T change it.
Hopefully the Shanahans will let McNabb throw the ball his way. I wouldn't be surprised if the attempt to change his motion is part of the reason he is generating poorer results.

Your first paragraph sounds ever so famaliar, beginning to be a yearly tradition.

[Bushead]

You know what I hope is going on is this:

*this might be somewhat far fetched*

Maybe McNabb isn't exactly doing what he should. When Kyle Shanahan was getting uber-upset on the sidelines, i thought he was saying what play is that. It's been suggested by some "insiders" that McNabb isn't really doing what they want and making some bad decisions. While McNabb is an ultra-professional, maybe he is just doing his own thing a little bit and playing too loose.

Shanahan, instead of coming out and saying McNabb isn't running the plays we are calling and is making terrible decisions, comes up with a complete bull reason as to why he wasn't in there - the two-minute drill. This is so McNabb doesn't get discredited by the media, Shanahan takes all the heat for the decision, and it gives McNabb a golden opportunity to sharpen up with a BYE week without any media scrutiny.

This in turn makes it look like the exact opposite of what's going on: Shanahan is actually really protecting his QB and not throwing him under the bus and telling him get it right or you are out.

Otherwise, this is a cluster-****!

[30gut]

I think Mike Shanahan was pissed about the INT and pulled McNabb but didn't want to admit to making a such a rash decision

[JPPT1974]

Well McNabb is trying to get used to being on the Redskins. So give him time. Time is all he needs.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by JPPT1974

Well McNabb is trying to get used to being on the Redskins. So give him time. Time is all he needs.

I agree with the Bears fan. I'm still trying to get used to it too!


The system is a total 180 from Reid's offense. He WILL settle in and still has the talent to succeed.

[SolidSnake84]

I just saw where former Philly receiver Freddie "FredEx" Mitchell weighed in on the McNabb situation, saying that he agreed with Shanahan's decision.

Mitchell, another former eagles player who criticized McNabb's work ethic and practice habits while in Philadelphia, said that The eagles could have won the superbowl if McNabb wasn't so slow and lethargic directing the 2 minute offense in that game.

Here is a quote from the article:

“I respect both Coach Reid and Coach Shanahan - they have two total different coaching theories. I can only wonder what would have happened in the Super Bowl if Reid stepped up and said, ‘You know what? You're playing like [expletive], you're benched.' I don't know many coaches that have the balls to do that,” Mitchell said. “He was playing like [expletive] and he should have been benched. … And don't say he doesn't have a record of this; he did the same thing in every single championship game.”

Mitchell Rips Ex-teammate McNabb

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I just saw where former Philly receiver Freddie "FredEx" Mitchell weighed in on the McNabb situation, saying that he agreed with Shanahan's decision.

Mitchell, another former eagles player who criticized McNabb's work ethic and practice habits while in Philadelphia, said that The eagles could have won the superbowl if McNabb wasn't so slow and lethargic directing the 2 minute offense in that game.

Here is a quote from the article:

“I respect both Coach Reid and Coach Shanahan - they have two total different coaching theories. I can only wonder what would have happened in the Super Bowl if Reid stepped up and said, ‘You know what? You're playing like [expletive], you're benched.' I don't know many coaches that have the balls to do that,” Mitchell said. “He was playing like [expletive] and he should have been benched. … And don't say he doesn't have a record of this; he did the same thing in every single championship game.”

Mitchell Rips Ex-teammate McNabb

Interesting, perhaps my(and many others') perceptions of McNabb are just not accurate. That's two of his former teammates talking about him sucking in the SuperBowl.

....

Why did we trade for him again?

[SmootSmack]

Freddie Mitchell? Really? The 1st round bust? He wouldn't have sniffed the Super Bowl if not for McNabb

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Freddie Mitchell? Really? The 1st round bust? He wouldn't have sniffed the Super Bowl if not for McNabb

Who is Freddie Mitchell?

[mlmpetert]

I thought this was a interesting parallel:

Ex-NFL QB Jake Plummer is playing a new sport these days - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports


The grind of playing for an uber-perfectionist like Shanahan wore on Plummer during his time in the Rockies.

"I had a coach that, regardless of how well I thought I was playing or how well the majority of fans across the country thought I was playing, it was never good enough for him," Plummer said, not bitter but very matter-of-fact. "And that kind of gets frustrating.

"It just seemed like every game I could have completed these four more passes or these five more shots here and it would have been perfect. And that just wasn't my personality... But Shanahan wanted perfection and he wore a lot of us down there."

Plummer didn't sound surprised by the current circus unfolding in Washington, D.C., between Shanahan and Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb(notes).

"I think Shanahan is still searching for John Elway," Plummer said. "Somehow, someway, he thinks there's going to be another guy like John Elway.

"He coached a team to almost perfection [with Elway] so he wanted that again, he wanted that every time we went out there. It's just not realistic."

[Gtothearry]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

"He coached a team to almost perfection [with Elway] so he wanted that again, he wanted that every time we went out there. It's just not realistic."

I think it's realisitic to push players towards perfection. If we want another superbowl in DC we gotta continue working towards perfection. He may never find another Elway but he needs to push players to play at their best level.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Bushead

You know what I hope is going on is this:

*this might be somewhat far fetched*

Maybe McNabb isn't exactly doing what he should. When Kyle Shanahan was getting uber-upset on the sidelines, i thought he was saying what play is that. It's been suggested by some "insiders" that McNabb isn't really doing what they want and making some bad decisions. While McNabb is an ultra-professional, maybe he is just doing his own thing a little bit and playing too loose.

Shanahan, instead of coming out and saying McNabb isn't running the plays we are calling and is making terrible decisions, comes up with a complete bull reason as to why he wasn't in there - the two-minute drill. This is so McNabb doesn't get discredited by the media, Shanahan takes all the heat for the decision, and it gives McNabb a golden opportunity to sharpen up with a BYE week without any media scrutiny.

This in turn makes it look like the exact opposite of what's going on: Shanahan is actually really protecting his QB and not throwing him under the bus and telling him get it right or you are out.

Otherwise, this is a cluster-****!

I guess Brett Farve is the only QB that can get away with doing his thing.

[skins89moss]

I watched the game Sunday but did not post any messages on the game day thread Sunday. I have to say what stood out most about pur loss to the Lions was how the D-Line of Detroit played in our backfield from the 1st series to the end. McNabb was running for his life nearly everytime he dropped back to pass. However we did manage to take the lead with 4mins remaining when McNabb made a poor decision to throw into double coverage which resulted into a INT. That was a mistake that a vet and pro bowl QB cannot make. Hey McNabb is only human, look Farve threw a pick against the Jets a couple weeks ago on the last drive to go ahead for the win. I think this loss will do us more good than harm with the bye week to think about this. I say McNabb will step up his game in the 2nd half of the season.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I watched the game Sunday but did not post any messages on the game day thread Sunday. I have to say what stood out most about pur loss to the Lions was how the D-Line of Detroit played in our backfield from the 1st series to the end. McNabb was running for his life nearly everytime he dropped back to pass. However we did manage to take the lead with 4mins remaining when McNabb made a poor decision to throw into double coverage which resulted into a INT. That was a mistake that a vet and pro bowl QB cannot make. Hey McNabb is only human, look Farve threw a pick against the Jets a couple weeks ago on the last drive to go ahead for the win. I think this loss will do us more good than harm with the bye week to think about this. I say McNabb will step up his game in the 2nd half of the season.

It often seems to work that way..........

[mike340]

What you want is push for excellence. I can (unfortunately personally) attest that a push for perfection is (very) counter-productive.

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

I think it's realisitic to push players towards perfection. If we want another superbowl in DC we gotta continue working towards perfection. He may never find another Elway but he needs to push players to play at their best level.