What's your take on our coaching?

[The Goat]

Starting with the top down...

My frustration with Mike is building. I think as the "big picture" goes he's wasted two years with the QB situation and (therefor) to a large extent the offense. To be sure Kyle has much to do with the QB mess, assuming he's the primary reason we have Rex on the roster at all. But at the end of the day Mike is still the HC. The other frustration with Mike is our lack of preparedness, especially on offense and teams. The delay of game today on the field goal turned punt is a prime example.

In general I don't feel like the offense consistently works together and fights to win. When Helu took a big shot today on that short pass (he couldn't make the catch and got the wind knocked out of him) just one player, a lineman I think, came over to check on him, and that guy didn't even help Helu up. WTF?! This kid is a promising rookie and just got plastered. I think the lack of camaraderie on offense is a symptom of Mike's failure in leadership.

On the defense there's plenty of camaraderie and these guys are definitely fighting to win. Haslett is a great motivator IMHO. His scheme is suspect part of the time, but I will go on record Haslett has exceeded my expectations.

So, I'm disappointed in the Shanahans and pretty damn impressed with Haslett. Very curious to know what ya'll are thinking...so discuss!

PS I think Mike's history as a returning 2X championship HC has to be taken into account when assessing his performance here. I definitely expected him to come in with a solid plan of action and have the offense, especially the QB situation, moving in a better direction by now.

[skinsfaninok]

Well mike came into a cluster **** of a team that went 4-12 let's b real here.. Hes done a very good job of drafting and has the team competitive. I still say this team wins 8/9 games and that's pretty good IMO

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Well mike came into a cluster **** of a team that went 4-12 let's b real here.. Hes done a very good job of drafting and has the team competitive. I still say this team wins 8/9 games and that's pretty good IMO

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

[Alvin Walton]

I don't trust Kyle Shanahan.
Our play calling is downright bizarre at times.
I'm fine with Mike Shanahan for now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by budw38

Exactly . We need better paly at QB , a WR that can get deep and also make " YAC " on offense . Defense , either 1 more big guy up front ( Maybe J. Jenkins ) , and a big down hill ILB next to Fletch . Two years ago , down 20-0 , we would have lost 41- 6 . We have F/A and nine draft pick ( plus a Comp pick for C. Rogers , I think ) . If Beck plays much better than REX , we could still win the east ?

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by irish

That's a huge if with Beck. I think the whole team needs to play better for them to win the East.

Yes , the team would have to play better , however with both dallas and Philly losing 3 and 4 games already , we would have a shot . Of course losing KL and TW is not going to help . I look at it this way , on OFF we are a good QB and WR away from being pretty good , defense , we have 4 guys that are either playing new postions ( Cofield / Kerrigan ) and guys with little starting experience ( Bowens /J. Wilson ) so we have done well on D .

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

Im gonna agree with this answer. I think Shanny, Haslett and the others have been pretty damn good. You can see the team growing and its the right direction. Im please on where this team is right now. BUT...

Kyle Shanny has been a problem. His ability to attack the defense's weakness has been poor. His gameplans prove this. His playcalling has been horrific around 50% of the time. Why doesnt he see we just dont have the talent to do everything he wants to and just play to our strengths?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im gonna agree with this answer. I think Shanny, Haslett and the others have been pretty damn good. You can see the team growing and its the right direction. Im please on where this team is right now. BUT...

Kyle Shanny has been a problem. His ability to attack the defense's weakness has been poor. His gameplans prove this. His playcalling has been horrific around 50% of the time. Why doesnt he see we just dont have the talent to do everything he wants to and just play to our strengths?

He obviously knows he doesnt really have a QB, his WRs are not much to brag about, and his O line stinks. He has his system and he's trying to install it as SOP for the team while the talent that can run his system is brought in.

IMO it was the same with Hazlette last year. Everyone was screaming that he's an idiot who should know he doesnt have the talent to run his D and should switch but guess what, he got some talent and now his D looks pretty good. Its gonna be the same for Kyle. He's got very little talent now but will keep getting more and as that happens and the team gets used to his system things will improve.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by irish

He obviously knows he doesnt really have a QB, his WRs are not much to brag about, and his O line stinks. He has his system and he's trying to install it as SOP for the team while the talent that can run his system is brought in.

IMO it was the same with Hazlette last year. Everyone was screaming that he's an idiot who should know he doesnt have the talent to run his D and should switch but guess what, he got some talent and now his D looks pretty good. Its gonna be the same for Kyle. He's got very little talent now but will keep getting more and as that happens and the team gets used to his system things will improve.

Mike said he had two QBs. He had a competition in camp. HAHA! WRs are straight not an excuse. O-line, if he knows he needs linemen then why wasn't he drafting any? This is year two not year one. Compare this rebuilding job to GibbsII. Joe was better by far. I miss Joe everyday and pray Taylor is doing well.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Im gonna agree with this answer. I think Shanny, Haslett and the others have been pretty damn good. You can see the team growing and its the right direction. Im please on where this team is right now. BUT...

Kyle Shanny has been a problem. His ability to attack the defense's weakness has been poor. His gameplans prove this. His playcalling has been horrific around 50% of the time. Why doesnt he see we just dont have the talent to do everything he wants to and just play to our strengths?

How would you have called the game then?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree, Shanny took over a perennial loser with roster rot throughout the team. This kind of thing isnt turned around in a season or 2, its gonna take awhile. I think its so far so good with Shanny.

On top of that he also to work with the few draft pics we had.

[irish]

Originally Posted by firstdown

On top of that he also to work with the few draft pics we had.

Its really tough to get rid of roster rot without draft picks.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by irish

Its really tough to get rid of roster rot without draft picks.

Roster is getting old IMO. where is there rot from the past? Who Fletch? Orakpo? I mean really.... Time to hold Kyle accountable Mike.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Well mike came into a cluster **** of a team that went 4-12 let's b real here.. Hes done a very good job of drafting and has the team competitive. I still say this team wins 8/9 games and that's pretty good IMO

Chan Gailey came into a total cluster*&^% too, and he has the Bills looking solid. Too bad we got Shanahan instead of Gailey. Shanny turned down the Buffalo job. One has to wonder what would have happened if Snyder went for the less sexy Gailey. As far as the drafting goes, only time will tell. Thus far only Kerrigan is showing any real promise for the 2011 class. Paul and Hankerson probably just need time, but who knows.