Ryan just can't turn a new Leaf
 

Stealing drugs?! I thought he had a solid collegiate coaching career (football and golf) not to mention millions of dollars in bonus money from his rookie contract.
Drugs truly are the devil.

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Didn't sound like this was related to money so much as addiction. He didn't try and steal the guy's TV right? He was there for the Hydrocodon.

Addiction to legal painkillers is a serious problem in this country. Let's hope Ryan gets himself straightened up. I think it's easy to pile on here and make jokes, especially given what an asshole he was in the past, but it's sad to see someone who had appeared to have really stabilized his life veer so far of course.

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Link?

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[quote=NM Redskin;559353]Link?[/quote]

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-leafindicted&prov=ap&type=lgns]Former NFL QB Ryan Leaf indicted - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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nifty thread title. and Leaf will always be a douche

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[quote=djnemo65;559351]Didn't sound like this was related to money so much as addiction. He didn't try and steal the guy's TV right? He was there for the Hydrocodon.

Addiction to legal painkillers is a serious problem in this country. Let's hope Ryan gets himself straightened up. I think it's easy to pile on here and make jokes, especially given what an asshole he was in the past, but it's sad to see someone who had appeared to have really stabilized his life veer so far of course.[/quote]

I just used hydrocodon for some dental work I had done. It took the edge off the pain but didn't totally eliminate it not last until the next dosage. You must have to take a handfull of these to get any buzz....which I won't try.

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What, no dogging ryan leaf? oh yeah, lets feel sorry for him, since it's related to drugs, and only breaking and entering.

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[quote=MasterBlaster;559381]What, no dogging ryan leaf? oh yeah, lets feel sorry for him, since it's related to drugs, and only breaking and entering.[/quote]

Hes a bum. All you have to say is the words "Ryan Leaf" and people laugh.

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[quote=nyredskinsfan;559364]I just used hydrocodon for some dental work I had done. It took the edge off the pain but didn't totally eliminate it not last until the next dosage. You must have to take a handfull of these to get any buzz....which I won't try.[/quote]

When you have ACTUAL pain, it dulls it, or eliminates it. When you don't and take the pills, then it causes an addictive state. Yes, the more you take, the better the "buzz", even worse, when you mix it with other drugs, especially alcohol, the effect is intensified. It is VERY easy to get addicted.

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[quote=MasterBlaster;559381]What, no dogging ryan leaf? oh yeah, lets feel sorry for him, since it's related to drugs, and only breaking and entering.[/quote]

It's called bashing fatigue. He's been a joke for years.

As for the addiction, I'm not one to bash, I never did back in the day when Dexter Manley fell victim, over and over again.

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i still remember the fan who was playing the song lonesome loser from little river band over and over to irritate ryan and he lost his cool that was funny. poor ryan hes just a loser.

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At some point you just have to laugh and hope he can work things out in his life. It's not like he is alone in life so im sure these event are greatly affecting his friends and family.

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[quote=nyredskinsfan;559364]I just used hydrocodon for some dental work I had done. It took the edge off the pain but didn't totally eliminate it not last until the next dosage. You must have to take a handfull of these to get any buzz....which I won't try.[/quote]

Interesting. Everyone I know that has ever taken the drug, has said that they barely needed any to get off on it. Vicodin is very powerful & fun...I WAS addicted to it for a while a long time ago. Didn't need treatment, didn't need counselors, just needed to not have it around & available to me. I can take it now without any recourse or "relapse".

Now, I have a problem with the belief that there is a serious addiction problem in this country to these things, mainly because of the anti-marijuana ads we see. Total lies & falsehoods to get people who don't know any better to freak out & keep these things out of peoples hands. Now, when someone actually needs these things for actual pain, like 2 bulging discs at the base of my spine, they want to give my Ibuprophren to ease the pain. That doesn't really do anything. There was NO indication that I was addicted before because I really wasn't getting them from doctors like that, so unless I say something, they don't know. And I didn't, so they don't, so there is no reason why they would be so stingy when they can clearly see that people are in pain.

That being said, this is clearly a case of addiction when you are stealing from others to get the drugs, regardless of what that drug is. I feel for him, because an addiction to this can be damning. It almost ruined a couple of my relationships, so I can relate to his problem. But he was an asshole, so I don't feel too bad for him.

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Poor Ryan Leaf, maybe we can find a roster spot for him.

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[quote=dan_snyder69;559406]Poor Ryan Leaf, maybe we can find a roster spot for him.[/quote]

:lol: God I hope not. I don't want him attacking our fans.