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I missed this but sounds like it was pretty good, anyone catch it? I'll have to wait til later to watch.

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[quote=Mattyk72;536708]I missed this but sounds like it was pretty good, anyone catch it? I'll have to wait til later to watch.

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I watched it. Brutal. Cramer got bulldozed. It was so rough it was almost uncomfortable to watch. The interview actually ran longer than the time slot allowed, so they had to edit out parts of it. The unedited interview is supposed to be posted on Comedy Central's website today, but I haven't checked for it yet.

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There may be an argument that CNBC is really awful, but I just wonder why Stewie never made it until someone on the network criticized Obama? Did they just start being awful 5 minutes ago? He'll run and hide behind "We're just a comedy show", but the truth is, he sees himself as a kind of cultural enforcer. If anyone steps out of line, he's going to come running around the corner to wack you over the head with his comedy schtick. Everybody get and line and shut up.

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It was an awesome take-down, one worthy of legendary status. Cramer's attempt to b.s. and lie his way through was comical at times but over all he took his beating like a man child.

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[quote=70Chip;536720]There may be an argument that CNBC is really awful, but I just wonder why Stewie never made it until someone on the network criticized Obama? Did they just start being awful 5 minutes ago? He'll run and hide behind "We're just a comedy show", but the truth is, he sees himself as a kind of cultural enforcer. If anyone steps out of line, he's going to come running around the corner to wack you over the head with his comedy schtick. Everybody get and line and shut up.[/quote]

It all started thanks to Rick Santelli "losers" comments.

Speaking of culture "enforcers," you have your [URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg3-2009mar03,0,1748845.column"]Jonah Goldberg[/URL] and we have our Jon Stewart. We love Stewie because he doesn't say things like "the scorpion must sting the frog."

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[quote=saden1;536727]It all started thanks to Rick Santelli "losers" comments.

Speaking of culture "enforcers," you have your [URL="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg3-2009mar03,0,1748845.column"]Jonah Goldberg[/URL] and we have our Jon Stewart. We love Stewie because he doesn't say things like "the scorpion must sting the frog."[/quote]

I'm just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.

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I personally enjoy watching them both (though Colbert is King).

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How many "republican" or "right wing" comedians are there? Just curious.

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[quote=70Chip;536735]I'm just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.[/quote]

I asked a cop once why he was giving me a speeding ticket seeing how there were people on the road going faster. You know what he said? I can't catch all the fish in the sea, I caught a fish and you're that fish son.

Stewie is fine, $14 million a year for doing basic cable isn't really that bad.

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[quote=dblanch66;536750]How many "republican" or "right wing" comedians are there? Just curious.[/quote]

Intentionally or unintentionally?

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[quote=saden1;536756]I asked a cop once why he was giving me a speeding ticket seeing how there were people on the road going faster. You know what he said? I can't catch all the fish in the sea, I caught a fish and you're that fish son.

Stewie is fine, $14 million a year for doing basic cable isn't really that bad.[/quote]


If the cop had said, "Because you have anti-Obama bumper sticker", it would be a truer analogy.

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[quote=saden1;536757]Intentionally or unintentionally?[/quote]

Priceless, just priceless.

Dennis Miller is the only intentional one I could muster... there's about a thousand of the other kind.

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it really wasn't stewart vs cramer though.

cramer was open to trying new things on his show, but stewart was mainly bashing the cozy coverage CNBC had of all those overleveraged companies' CEOs and then having rick turn around and say the blame lies entirely with the people who couldn't afford the houses (as if the banks that thought financing that venture weren't in any way at fault for part of the mess).

CNBC is an ENTERTAINMENT channel. CNN did real news 24/7, and you know what happened? the ratings started to tank against the entertainment/biased news channels (fox news etc), so the "old" news-core CNN died, and now, outside of the BBC, the news channels are all competing for ad dollars just like MTV or ABC etc.

if CNBC did what stewart suggested, they'd tank their ratings and lose their ad revenue. sad but true, they make money off ads, not news, so the whole reporting real news thing isn't as important as getting people to tune in by whatever means necessary.

it was kind of a faulty/unfair argument in that it's not based in reality. CNBC is NOT the SEC.

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that said, it was worth bringing to everyone's attention, but i doubt it changes much.

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[quote=70Chip;536735][B]I[/B]'m just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.[/quote]


If you're going to insult the man's integrity at least have the decency to conduct due diligence and insure that you're not liable.

1. Stewie's Jan 2002 interview with Ron Insana ([URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=113878&title=Ron-Insana---Pt-1"]part 1[/URL] and [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=114364&title=Ron-Insana---Pt-2"]part 2[/URL]).
2. Stewie's March 2004 segment on Martha Steward securities fraud reporting ([URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=108185&title=Jack-Ass-Reporting"]act 1[/URL] and [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=107943&title=Illegally-Blonde"]act 2[/URL][URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=108185&title=Jack-Ass-Reporting"][/URL]).

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[quote=That Guy;536798]it really wasn't stewart vs cramer though.

cramer was open to trying new things on his show, but stewart was mainly bashing the cozy coverage CNBC had of all those overleveraged companies' CEOs and then having rick turn around and say the blame lies entirely with the people who couldn't afford the houses (as if the banks that thought financing that venture weren't in any way at fault for part of the mess).

CNBC is an ENTERTAINMENT channel. CNN did real news 24/7, and you know what happened? the ratings started to tank against the entertainment/biased news channels (fox news etc), so the "old" news-core CNN died, and now, outside of the BBC, the news channels are all competing for ad dollars just like MTV or ABC etc.

if CNBC did what stewart suggested, they'd tank their ratings and lose their ad revenue. sad but true, they make money off ads, not news, so the whole reporting real news thing isn't as important as getting people to tune in by whatever means necessary.

it was kind of a faulty/unfair argument in that it's not based in reality. CNBC is NOT the SEC.[/quote]

Yeah I agree with this for the most part. In a way Stewart was sort of shooting the messenger.

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[quote=saden1;536805]If you're going to insult the man's integrity at least have the decency to conduct due diligence and insure that you're not liable.

1. Stewie's Jan 2002 interview with Ron Insana ([URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=113878&title=Ron-Insana---Pt-1"]part 1[/URL] and [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=114364&title=Ron-Insana---Pt-2"]part 2[/URL]).
2. Stewie's March 2004 segment on Martha Steward securities fraud reporting ([URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=108185&title=Jack-Ass-Reporting"]act 1[/URL] and [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=107943&title=Illegally-Blonde"]act 2[/URL]).[/quote]

If Santelli and Cramer had been saying nice things about Obama, the Stewie rant would never have happened and you know it. Stewart knows what he's doing. He's pushing his cause forward. He'll kneecap anybody that gets out of line in the great tradition of the Leftist Trade Unions. If you don't go along, you'll get your tires slashed.

Just don't point this out to him, because then he'll turn into Freddie Roman: "I'm just a comedian. Take my wife, please". It's guerilla tactics. He's read his Mao.

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It's not guerrilla tactics 70. There is nothing deceiving about what Jon does. He makes it clear, upfront and obvious. He knows its a cheap show, that takes cheap shots at people when things go wrong.

That is the show's role and it never went out of the way to say it is a legit news source. CNBC, however, portrays its coverage as accurate, especially Cramer's show, and people take it seriously. To me that is bad and clearly a violation of ethics.

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[quote=70Chip;536820]If Santelli and Cramer had been saying nice things about Obama, the Stewie rant would never have happened and you know it. Stewart knows what he's doing. He's pushing his cause forward. He'll kneecap anybody that gets out of line in the great tradition of the Leftist Trade Unions. If you don't go along, you'll get your tires slashed.

Just don't point this out to him, because then he'll turn into Freddie Roman: "I'm just a comedian. Take my wife, please". It's guerilla tactics. He's read his Mao.[/quote]

R u serious?

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[quote=70Chip;536820]If Santelli and Cramer had been saying nice things about Obama, the Stewie rant would never have happened and you know it. Stewart knows what he's doing. He's pushing his cause forward. He'll kneecap anybody that gets out of line in the great tradition of the Leftist Trade Unions. If you don't go along, you'll get your tires slashed.

Just don't point this out to him, because then he'll turn into Freddie Roman: "I'm just a comedian. Take my wife, please". It's guerilla tactics. He's read his Mao.[/quote]

what?

cramer voted for obama and complimented him in the interview... this post seems a bit too paranoid for me :/.

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im trying to figure out how 70 tied Obama into this. anyway, i think people forget that Stewart is a comedian, and entertainer. while he does do his homework, he is still around because he makes people laugh. and Cramer did the same thing most so called experts did. went along with the financial tide of success. the one thing this economy should have taught everyone is that even the experts don't know everything

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[quote=That Guy;536843]what?

cramer voted for obama and complimented him in the interview... this post seems a bit too paranoid for me :/.[/quote]


I know, Iknow. Jon Stewart is just a comedian that makes people laugh.

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[quote=dmek25;536848]im trying to figure out how 70 tied Obama into this. anyway, i think people forget that Stewart is a comedian, and entertainer. while he does do his homework, he is still around because he makes people laugh. and Cramer did the same thing most so called experts did. went along with the financial tide of success. the one thing this economy should have taught everyone is that even the experts don't know everything[/quote]

well, it's because he's a republican...obviously.

If you watch the interview, politics isn't even an issue having any relevance to the discussion. this is about dishonest scumbags getting rich over the last 10 years off of your's and your parent's 401ks and retirement and now being called to task. This has nothing to do with Obama at all but yet somehow he enters into the discussion. Baffling. Just baffling.

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I love how 70Chip just deflects good points. I've seen Stewart dog Obama before on his show. It's political satire, and honestly -- it's great. Stewart/Colbert are shows that get young people interested in politics. Using comedy to show the issues around the world is a great model. Can you get all your news from them, no. But you can be informed about what's going on in the world through watching them.

Yes, Stewart and Colbert lean liberal -- that's their personal stance. But just like any sane person, they see the faults in their own party and still joke about it. Stewart makes good points against Kramer.

I don't understand the Obama bashing myself. There have been some questionable moves thus far, but we should wait to see if they change anything. He's inherited one of the largest messes in the short history of the US. Hopefully he can navigate us through it.

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Let's not confuse WHAT Stewart said with WHY he said it. The timing is important. Cramer's criticism of Obama hit the papers last Tuesday, March 3. Stewart did his takedown of Cramer and CNBC on Wednesday March 4. I don't think anyone can claim that the first did not cause the second. If Cramer doesn't criticize Obama, or if he does and it doesn't make headlines, Jon Stewart would have kept his outrage to himself - as he had largely managed to do for so many years.

At any rate, the White House is quite pleased with what Stewart hath wrought:


"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said he and President Obama spoke yesterday about the fact that CNBC's Jim Cramer was set to appear on "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart last night.

He wasn't sure if the president caught Mr. Stewart's bloodletting of the host of "Mad Money," but he himself gave the show a thumbs up.
"I enjoyed it thoroughly," Gibbs said at his daily briefing."

[url=http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/white-house-rav.html]Political Punch: White House Raves About Jon Stewart's Beatdown of Jim Cramer[/url]

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70, just curious did you actually watch the clip?

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[quote=Mattyk72;536920]70, just curious did you actually watch the clip?[/quote]

I saw most of it. What did I miss that completely invalidates my argument?

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I just don't see any correlation to Obama, but that's just me.

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[quote=Mattyk72;536928]I just don't see any correlation to Obama, but that's just me.[/quote]

The correlation is in the timing. The takedown happened last Wednesday, the day after there were headlines that said, words to the effect, "CNBC Host Cramer Criticizes Obama". As I said before, everything Stewart said is probably true, but he would not have said it if Cramer had not criticized Obama. Plus I think Stewart's "anger" is so much bullshit. He's so concerned about the little people. He's a man of the people. But again, why am I criticizing him, he's just a comedian.

Why Cramer decided to bend over and take it I have no idea. Show a little dignity, man. It's pretty uncomfortable to see anybody just give in like that. It's like the Stalinest show trials where the prisoner knows no matter what he says or how well he defends himself, the story ends with a bullet in the back of his head, so he just wants to hurry up and get it over with. "Yes, Comrade I have committed crimes against the people." "Yes, Comrade I was carrying out the orders of my imperialist bosses" "Yes Comrade... Yes Comrade... Yes Comrade..."

I should say that my hatred of Stewart was cemented when he had Jonah Goldberg on his show, couldn't get any zingers in because his writers were on strike at the time and because he hadn't read the book, dragged the interview out for eighteen minutes trying to make Jonah look bad, edited the tape down to six minutes to make himself look better, and then lied and said that the edits were done because of profanity, even though the edited version is laced with profanity. It's heads he wins tails you lose on The Daily Show.

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Wow 70, these are awful conspiratorial type posts devoid of any reality. You're digging a stupid hole to China man, not cool. Perhaps your hatred of him clouds your judgment?


Seems obvious you don't care much for reality, for those who do this is what went down:

1. Stewart has a past going after the media, way before anyone knew or gave a damn about Obama.
2. Stewart has gone after CNBC before Obama ran for any national level office.
3. Stewart's takedowns of CNBC started because of [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220252&title=CNBC-Gives-Financial-Advice"]Rick Losers[/URL].
4. Cramer put himself out there by saying he was [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220288&title=In-Cramer-We-Trust"]taken out of context[/URL] by Stewart.
5. Cramer [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220510&title=Basic-Cable-Personality-Clash-Skirmish-%2709"]yapped again and got nailed again[/URL].
6. Finally, Stewart nailed him once more in the interview.

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[quote=saden1;536949]Wow 70, these are awful conspiratorial type posts devoid of any reality. You're digging a stupid hole to China man, not cool. Perhaps your hatred of him clouds your judgment?


Seems obvious you don't care much for reality, for those who do this is what went down:

1. Stewart has a past going after the media, way before anyone knew or gave a damn about Obama.
2. Stewart has gone after CNBC before Obama ran for any national level office.
3. Stewart's takedowns of CNBC started because of [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220252&title=CNBC-Gives-Financial-Advice"]Rick Losers[/URL].
4. Cramer put himself out there by saying he was [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220288&title=In-Cramer-We-Trust"]taken out of context[/URL] by Stewart.
5. Cramer [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220510&title=Basic-Cable-Personality-Clash-Skirmish-%2709"]yapped again and got nailed again[/URL].
6. Finally, Stewart nailed him once more in the interview.[/quote]

#3 is dead on. The takedown started [I]after [/I]Santelli criticized Obama and [I]after [/I]Cramer criticized Obama. If they had not engaged in patriotic dissent against His Lordship, Stewart would have continued overlooking their other sins. Stewart doesn't have time to slam all the douchebags. He only has time to slam the douchebags who speak out against "The One".

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[quote=70Chip;536952]#3 is dead on. The takedown started [I]after [/I]Santelli criticized Obama and [I]after [/I]Cramer criticized Obama. If they had not engaged in patriotic dissent against His Lordship, Stewart would have continued overlooking their other sins. Stewart doesn't have time to slam all the douchebags. He only has time to slam the douchebags who speak out against "The One".[/quote]


Actually 6 points are dead on. Let me ask you this, is Rick Santelli accountable for his comments? That is to say, can he be criticized for throwing a tantrum and calling people facing foreclosure losers?

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[quote=dblanch66;536905]This has nothing to do with Obama at all but yet somehow he enters into the discussion. Baffling. Just baffling.[/quote]

kinda like how bush was blamed for katrina right ?

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[quote=saden1;536953]Actually 6 points are dead on. Let me ask you this, is Rick Santelli accountable for his comments? That is to say, can he be criticized for throwing a tantrum and calling people facing foreclosure losers?[/quote]

Of course he can. And Stewart may be right He would have been right if he had slammed them before they criticized Obama, too. I don't see what's so controversial about saying that the impetus for Stewart's attack was the fact that they criticized Obama. It seems obvious to me.

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[quote=wolfeskins;536954]kinda like how bush was blamed for katrina right ?[/quote]
only blamed for the lack of response. hopefully we, as a country, learned a valuable lesson

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[quote=70Chip;536965]Of course he can. And Stewart may be right He would have been right if he had slammed them before they criticized Obama, too. I don't see what's so controversial about saying that the impetus for Stewart's attack was the fact that they criticized Obama. It seems obvious to me.[/quote]


Fair enough. Personally, I think you're pissed at Stewie because he has taken one too many jabs at your beloved party, network of choice, and your hero Rushbo. Plus, I don't think [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=147884&title=jonah-goldberg"]making a fool out[/URL] of your secret lover Jonah Goldberg helps his standing.

Folks, organic food is facisit.

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[quote=saden1;536990]Fair enough. Personally, I think you're pissed at Stewie because he has taken one too many jabs at your beloved party, network of choice, and your hero Rushbo. Plus, I don't think [URL="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=147884&title=jonah-goldberg"]making a fool out[/URL] of your secret lover Jonah Goldberg helps his standing.

Folks, organic food is facisit.[/quote]

Secret Lovers. Atlantic Starr, right? Now I'm going to have that song in my head as well their other one. "Ooh you're like the sun. Chasing all of the rain away...." 9th grade, good times.

The obsession with whole foods is just one minor example that Goldberg uses to demonstrate that the fascist movement was largely the product of a progressive sensibility- progressive in the early twentieth century sense of the word. Think Upton Sinclair and Margaret Sanger. I'm not sure it ever ocurred to anyone that Mussolini or Hitler might be rightists until Stalin decreed it to be so, for his own tactical reasons. Of course, Stalin decreed that Trotsky was a rightist as well and nobody takes that at face value. But there is no point in this. Like your boyfiend John Stewart, you haven't read the book.

And again, the link you give is to a 6 minute interview that is edited down from 18. Obviously, things didn't go the way Stewie originally expected. I think it's pretty cheap to have a debate with someone, and then cut out all the parts where the other guy lands punches. It would be like me, editing all of your posts in this thread to remove any good points you made (obviously a hypothetical). If he were just interested in laughs, I don't think he would feel the need to do things like that. If Goldberg's book were as silly as he would have us believe, he wouldn't feel the need to do things like that.

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[quote=70Chip;536999]Secret Lovers. Atlantic Starr, right? Now I'm going to have that song in my head as well their other one. "Ooh you're like the sun. Chasing all of the rain away...." 9th grade, good times.

The obsession with whole foods is just one minor example that Goldberg uses to demonstrate that the fascist movement was largely the product of a progressive sensibility- progressive in the early twentieth century sense of the word. Think Upton Sinclair and Margaret Sanger. I'm not sure it ever ocurred to anyone that Mussolini or Hitler might be rightists until Stalin decreed it to be so, for his own tactical reasons. Of course, Stalin decreed that Trotsky was a rightist as well and nobody takes that at face value. But there is no point in this. Like your boyfiend John Stewart, you haven't read the book.

And again, the link you give is to a 6 minute interview that is edited down from 18. Obviously, things didn't go the way Stewie originally expected. I think it's pretty cheap to have a debate with someone, and then cut out all the parts where the other guy lands punches. It would be like me, editing all of your posts in this thread to remove any good points you made (obviously a hypothetical). If he were just interested in laughs, I don't think he would feel the need to do things like that. If Goldberg's book were as silly as he would have us believe, he wouldn't feel the need to do things like that.[/quote]


I wasn't thinking of any particular song/band but if I were I would go with Luther Vandross' "Your Secret Love."

I haven't read Liberal Fascism but I know enough about it having watched Goldberg pimp his book on many occasions. From what I have seen of his act the problem I have is that he attempts to link liberalism and fascism exclusively while asserting conservatism is mutually exclusive to fascism using mostly anecdotal devices. If someone wanted to write a book(s) today called Conservatism Fascism or Conservatism Racism I assure you they would have enough material to write such a book(s). It would be silly book, a shameful book but your life partner seems to have high tolerance for shame.

The real problem with his book is that its objective is "tie liberalism to fascism." Not exactly a difficult thing to do...let me try...if you're a hunter and you have a dagger, you have something in common with Hitler's youth, they had knives.

I might be bias but even edited he sounds like a dumb-f*ck. I mean, the dude is riling against slander while committing it and doesn't like seeing words thrown around yet he's very comfortable doing it. Hopefully we will see the full 18 minutes someday and the conservative world would stop the conspiratorial madness.

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um,

first, i don't think it was a cramer takedown. he was present, but the issue was CNBC and the "experts" being completely blind to reality and not doing proper research with the tools they had as the "premiere financial network".

the reality is they're just an entertainment channel though, so they care about ad dollars and viewership above journalistic standards, which is sad, but pretty common today.


also, the timing was because ricky made some stupid comments alluding that this whole mess is poor people's fault alone as if the greedy mortgage banking industry or lobbyists/politicians had no part in it - so stewart took that to task... then cramer butted in, because he didn't feel that all the comments made were fair, so stewart did a redux.

that explains the timing... no conspiracies needed.

as far as the daily show not always being fair... he only said his show wasn't fair like 14 times during the interview - he has a writing staff of 18 (i think) and editorial control. the unedited interview (over 22min) is online on the daily show's site though, and really cramer and stewart don't have any ill will towards each other; other people just made this out to be a bigger deal than it was - his real beef was with experts' lack of foresight or follow-through, not cramer.

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[quote=The Goat;536791]Priceless, just priceless.

Dennis Miller is the only intentional one I could muster... there's about a thousand of the other kind.[/quote]


I didn't know [URL="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/03/16/mason/index.html"]Jackie Mason[/URL] was still on the rock but apparently he's a very funny comedian. Best line ever:

[quote]I'm more talented than Oprah Winfrey and look at how much she makes. I can't even make a living.[/quote][COLOR=Red]WARNING[/COLOR]: Link provided without SS approval, click with discretion.