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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1137037]We had a very good season and have made good progress toward continued success. I'm satisfied.[/QUOTE]


Hard to disagree with this. Felt a little like playing with house money.


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Unable to get pressure on Rodgers killed us. And our non commitment to the run game finally caught up with us.

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[QUOTE=calia;1137046]Hard to disagree with this. Felt a little like playing with house money.


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We were playing with house money. Hopefully SM does his magic in the offseason, we get some players healthy again, and we keep the same coaching staff (continuity is important kids).

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1137037]We had a very good season and have made good progress toward continued success. I'm satisfied.[/quote]

Only the most optimistic person would have guessed better than 9-8 and making the playoffs. It was a good season.

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Time to start reading every mock draft available for the next few months. I like football too much.

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We'll be good next yr I can't wait

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It was a good run. Can't wait to see McCloughan continue to build this thing up.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1137042]and run by slime balls like John Mara today.[/quote]

Hopefully the Giants and the Mara family get what they deserve and we witness the Ray Handley era 2.0. The shabby treatment of Coughlin, it would only be fair play and deserved. Coughlin is a borderline HOF Coach and deserved better treatment at the end of his career. The Giants and Eagles should be in turmoil next year, hopefully the Redskins can capitalize.

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Packers are better than we are. We need a few more guys in the trenches in order to compete with the best teams in the NFL. To me that's where it seemed Green Bay was clearly better, as was Carolina, New England and the Jets. So if I'm SM, that's where I'm looking first, the trenches.

Really proud of these guys. For the first time in a while, I feel like we have a true plan in place for building a winner.

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Kirk was 29-46 300 plus yards and 2 total tds in his first playoff game. Not bad

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Good to know Randall Cobb is a jerk off! FU buddy. Have fun losing next weekend.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1137038]Difference was rodgers he was great today got the ball out quick all day[/quote]

I would agree and that's why he's a great player.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1137061]Kirk was 29-46 300 plus yards and 2 total tds in his first playoff game. Not bad[/quote]

I thought he was kind of average today. The pressure got to him a bit and he started going back to bad Kirk on a few plays. But the line had a bad day. Even Trent was getting beat.

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Packers pressured the QB, we didn't. They won, we didn't. Not a coincidence.

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Cousins had had the benefit of having a pretty clean pocket to work from the majority of the season. When you get into the playoffs you will be dealing with teams that can pressure you. You need the ability to stand down that pressure and deliver regardless.

Cousins wasn't the problem today though. The strategy by Joe Berry was awful. Sean McVay seemed to get timid once Green Bay took the 17-11 lead....

One of those situations where the game turned so badly out of the 'Skins favor that there was no getting back into it.

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Where was DeSean Jackson all game today? He didn't do shit.

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[quote=DirtBagZ;1137053]Hopefully the Giants and the Mara family get what they deserve and we witness the Ray Handley era 2.0. The shabby treatment of Coughlin, it would only be fair play and deserved. Coughlin is a borderline HOF Coach and deserved better treatment at the end of his career. The Giants and Eagles should be in turmoil next year, hopefully the Redskins can capitalize.[/quote]amen.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1137069]Where was DeSean Jackson all game today? He didn't do shit.[/quote]he was usually the guy with two packers running with him at midfield.

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[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1137079]he was usually the guy with two packers running with him at midfield.[/QUOTE]


He drew alot of coverage away, but our pass pro was not great n Cousins had to rush alot.

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Cousins was extremely lucky not to have thrown 3 picks today.

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He was extremely unlucky that djax took away a td. Plus a couple drops. That being said it was not his best game by any means. He was definitely a little off on a handful of throws. Oh well. He is still a great young qb and now we need to fix the D. The future is bright. HTTR!

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[quote=HailGreen28;1137079]he was usually the guy with two packers running with him at midfield.[/quote]

Yeah, but for some reason it felt like he was out of the game a lot. For a while there I was wondering if he was hurt...if he wasn't, I don't get it.

I have to admit, I was real disappointed that we couldn't take advantage of their secondary. They got to KC a few times, but mostly I thought he had plenty of time. It seemed like he got a little rattled as the second half progressed...throwing off his back foot a lot, not getting the ball out quickly...just less accurate than he has been in recent weeks.

That being said, KC is the definition of "a student of the game". He will learn from this game and come back strong next year.

The defense disappeared in the second half. Credit Rodgers, because he is one of the best all time, but when I looked up and saw Cary Williams, Quinton Dunbar, and Will Blackmon as the three corners...I'm like ruh-roh, this isn't going to end well.

It's been a while since I felt this much optimism going into the offseason. This team is truly headed in the right direction.

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As the OL goes so does the QB. Rogers is a perfect example, his OL did a great job. Today was a bad performance by our OL (allowed at least 5 sacks) that's why Cousins struggled.

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I'm not even mad with the Packers, I've never had any hate towards them (except for today ) and I dislike the Panthers/Seahawks so I'm probably going to root for the Packers/Cardinals to go all the way this year. Aaron Rodgers has always been a good qb and today was the result of a lot of factors, but the biggest one is they did their jobs and we didn't. Overall I'm happy that we made progress this year, advancing would've been nice but I didn't believe we'd be able to get past a team like the Seahawks or Panthers. I can't wait to see the improvements McC makes this offseason, I definitely expect them to build off this year.

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Boy did Trent Williams have a bad day. I don't recall ever seeing him get beat as often as in that game.

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Yeah he never plays that bad

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I thought the O line looked terrible and the D couldn't stop GB when they really needed to. I really thought this game was winnable but obviously GB was the better team. The Skins had a good year but they definitely have room to improve.

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I believe trent gave up 2 sacks yesterday and he only gave up 2 the whole yr. It happens we had a good run but we all knew it was ending at some point.

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I always see him have trouble with speed rushers. It's those little guys that give him fits. I remember Trent Cole always having success against him.

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sacks - at least 2 seemed to be coverage sacks where kirk hesitated from not liking what he was seeing. they were relatively quick coverage sacks.

imo the packers won this game monday through friday when they game planned us on offense and defense.

packs offense - they took what we gave them and it seemed to be 3rd and 1 many times for them. death by a thousand paper cuts. with culliver out and hall moved to safety, blakcmon/dunbar are easy targets for a guy like Rodgers when there is no pass rush or pressure (1 sack, 3 qb hits). the packers also ran it effectively. doing enough different looks to keep us off balanced (cobb had 5 runs).

packs defense - tip the cap to capers. normally kirk is good at deciding who is primary receiver is pre-snap and, if that doesnt work, he can find his secondary guy. last night, it seemed like cousins wasnt seeing the field and the packers did a great job of getting pressure while rushing 5.

we just got out game-planned. the kirk TD run was the only wrinkle i saw in play calling where he kept it instead of looking bubble left or reed solo right. it seemed like we were trying to beat them on these medium to deep routes every single drop back. by the 4th quarter, the wheels just came off.

mike mccarthy and capers > gruden/mcvay and barry.

its like our guys werent prepared to see what they saw.

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That fumble by Cousins was the turning point. We were marching down the filed and would have scored. It went downhill pretty fast after that.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1137183]That fumble by Cousins was the turning point. We were marching down the filed and would have scored. It went downhill pretty fast after that.[/quote]

agree, that play killed us

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What was most frustrating about yesterday was Joe Barry. He seems to be too bland of a DC for my taste. He literally did nothing to try and get a pass rush on AR, couldn't get pressure w/ 4 and he sent no blitzes. He called the game like he was defending Kellen Moore.

Also did they prepare at all for that hurry up? AR got us a few times with 12 men on the field. They were not prepared for that. Bottom line was Joe Barry was piss poor. After seeing him for an entire year, he's an average NFL DC.

I'd also say when they started pressuring KC, Gruden needed to try and protect better with his formations. He left KC in too many empty sets and GB took advantage of it.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1137183]That fumble by Cousins was the turning point. We were marching down the filed and would have scored. It went downhill pretty fast after that.[/quote]

Yeah that was a back breaker. I think that play was more on KC. He needed to do a better job feeling the pressure and either tried to step up and avoid that or just get rid of it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1137190]Yeah that was a back breaker. I think that play was more on KC. He needed to do a better job feeling the pressure and either tried to step up and avoid that or just get rid of it.[/quote]

It was a very RG3 type error.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1137188]What was most frustrating about yesterday was Joe Barry. He seems to be too bland of a DC for my taste. He literally did nothing to try and get a pass rush on AR, couldn't get pressure w/ 4 and he sent no blitzes. He called the game like he was defending Kellen Moore.

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I dont think Barry wanted to be this bland either. He has said that he wants to be more aggressive and pass rush but he has to be conservative to offset our secondary. Add in the pourous run defense up front and that limits him calling man coverage.

i think breeland and culliver are aggressive physical man corners. we just need more depth. blackmon came off the street late august and probably played the most snaps of any defensive player this year.

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Yeah, I think it is pretty tough to judge Barry TOO harshly. As one commentator said, our defensive back-field was being held together with spit, scotch tape, and chicken wire.

I do believe that, as a unit, the defense needs to be faster and needs faster athletes - or athletes who play faster anyway. Speed kills and there really isn't much of it on our D.

Into the offseason, it looks like safety is still a top priority. Goldson and Compton are solid, smart players. However, we need someone on the inside - at all levels - that can range and attack. We just don't have that. I think the big plays against us were largely b/c of this lack of speed. If we didn't play perfectly, there was no one with the make-up speed to limit the harm of a blown coverage or blown assignment.

Given the talent level on our defense, I think Barry got about as much out of them as could be reasonably expected.

Still need a fearsome edge defender (maybe Smith grows into that), someone in the middle who can range sideline to sideline, and someone over the top to keep the lid on the offense. Few teams have all these guys, but we really don't have any of them. Right now, there is just no one on our D that scares anyone.

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How to be better next year:
Better guard and center play
Better pass rush

Both these areas will improve internally when we get injured guys back. Then add a few draft picks up front on both sides and I think we'll be greatly improved there. I also see Alfmo leaving and us drafting another rb.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1137188]What was most frustrating about yesterday was Joe Barry. He seems to be too bland of a DC for my taste. He literally did nothing to try and get a pass rush on AR, couldn't get pressure w/ 4 and he sent no blitzes. He called the game like he was defending Kellen Moore.

Also did they prepare at all for that hurry up? AR got us a few times with 12 men on the field. They were not prepared for that. Bottom line was Joe Barry was piss poor. After seeing him for an entire year, he's an average NFL DC.[/quote]

I agree 100%. What a joke. We ran Haslett out of town but I never saw him get outcoached like that.

35 points and 5 straight scoring drives to a team with zero weapons. ZERO. Didn't think they'd try a hurry-up offense? Thought they'd just sit back there and let us sack them all game??

We got badly outcoached yesterday, badly.

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Barry tried to rush just 4 guys all day and we had 1 sack. I can't believe we only had 1 sack to begin with, it's what I've said all along about RK, man sometimes that guy just disappears and it seems to always be in the crunch time. Preston smith will be a monster, so that's a plus. The one guy that has turned heads all over the country though is jordan reed, I've had a bunch of friends and family text telling me he's like Megatron as a TE. Dude is damn near unstoppable. I saw faulk on Nfln after the game saying reed disappeared in the 2nd half... no it's called adjustments that GB did.