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07-22-2024, 12:20 AM | #16 | |
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Same thing, if GOP had nominated a guy like Romney, I don't think it would be close.
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07-22-2024, 08:21 AM | #17 | |
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Seems like she's getting the nom not because she's the best person for the job, it's because the VP card is a big one to use. I wish they would go open season and debate it out with the top 4-5 candidates to pick the best for the future. But I fear it's gonna be 2016 all over again where half the Dems want someone else and the political elite Dems are determined to put a woman in office. Anyways I agree - this increases my respect for Biden because he's done enough to deserve a 2nd term. But stepping down after his term is up is showing respect to America who deserves better than an 80+ year old leader (and I would say this even if Trump was a moderate - 80 year olds should not be in the most powerful position in the world). I just wish he had figured out a plan a year ago when we could prepare for this. Now they're just going to wing it and probably end up with Kamala and people are only gonna vote for her because the alternative is horrible.
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07-22-2024, 08:25 AM | #18 |
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Another thing he deserves credit for is recognizing he's in danger of becoming another Ruth Bader Ginsburg - her entire legacy is ruined because she should've retired before 2016 and McConnell/Trump seized on that opp when they had the chance to stack the court. If Joe stayed in office for a 2nd term and died in office too that's all he would be remembered for as well. But America is bigger than any one man or woman. Glad he came to his senses.
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07-23-2024, 10:30 AM | #19 |
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Trump shouldn't even been close to competitive given his conduct. You are somewhat correct on Trump and his base, but the issue is the damage the Dems have done to their base. Minorities are leaving because of the extremes the Dems have gone in the cultural wars and some of them are heading Trump's way. Basically, Dem leadership decided white liberal views were more important than minority views. (Sounds familiar to us Redskins fans, right?)
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07-23-2024, 11:40 AM | #20 | |
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07-23-2024, 01:15 PM | #21 | |
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07-26-2024, 03:33 PM | #22 | |
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The problem here wasn’t the age of Biden or the debate…it was the polling and big money donors. If Biden was polling stronger, then they would have supported Biden going forward no matter what. Regardless of him being a retarded fucking vegetable.
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08-01-2024, 12:16 AM | #23 |
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The problem was Biden's age, which is why the polling numbers were very low for him. The debate just highlighted people's fears about age being an issue. Watch interviews from 4 years ago, and watch one now. There is a noticeable difference. Biden said his plan was going to be a transition President and only run one term. Now, I don't know who talked him into trying to run again, but they didn't do him any favors. Biden was smart to drop out, it cemented his legacy IMO.
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08-01-2024, 12:27 AM | #24 | |
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08-01-2024, 01:08 AM | #25 |
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What is his legacy?
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08-01-2024, 09:40 AM | #26 |
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08-01-2024, 02:53 PM | #27 |
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His legacy is Afghanistan withdrawal, defeatist and appeasement to Iran which directly lead to the conflict we see today in the Middle East and weakness to Putin who abruptly invaded once Biden was in office. Oh Biden also bombed Norstream 2 leading the largest greenhouse gas release into the atmosphere of all time…. …notice how the bullshit climate democrats just simply ignore that fact and act like it never happened. At home: Biden let the largest totals of illegals cross the border without enforcing laws already on the books to throw them out. At the same time seeing record deaths for fentanyl which poured over the border with them. Record inflation which was directly tied to democrat spending. Record high food prices and rents. Illegally gave handouts to elites with student loans bailouts…forcing billions on the backs of the middle class. Sent energy policy backwards with green bullshit increasing the burden on the middle class with higher cost to heat homes and put gas in the their car. Covid policies were failures which saw more death than Trump. Biden and Harris supported closing schools which was a failure and we are seeing learning loss among children. Biden also demonized half the country, attacking hard working Americans with his bullshit rhetoric contributing to an assassination attempt on his political rival. Biden’s justice department directly prosecuted his political rival like a third world country. I could keep going, but the left doesn’t give a shit. They hate this country
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ROFL. Do you guys ever even research a damn thing? https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump Trump added 8 trillion to the national debt in 4 years. Do you know how hard you and how incompetent you have to be achieve that? I'll take a 4.3 Trillion spent over a 8.4T any day. That's 1/2 of what orange man spent. https://www.crfb.org/papers/trump-an...-national-debt Also, if you even knew remotely anything about the economy, you would know that much of the inflation came from the supply chain failures during covid. Couple that with pure corporate greed. No, the spending from Trump nor Biden helped the situation either. Trump harmed it worse than Biden based on the pure spending alone. How about we start looking at corporations for the cost of prices rising: https://groundworkcollaborative.org/...its-Report.pdf Quote:
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08-01-2024, 09:14 PM | #29 |
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