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02-23-2018, 02:01 PM | #46 | |
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Yes, imo, the focus should be on looking at personal responibility, and getting help to those who need it, BEFORE, they have set in their hearts to do evil. The Parkland shooting shows us again, the systems were in place to stop it, but the almighty government and the individual guard who were alerted and could have stopped it - failed. It's that simple and tragic. You can ban whatever guns you want, there will always be a way for a person intent on an evil act to accomplish it. HYPOTHETICAL, suppose Nikolas, instead of using a gun, had plowed his car through the parking lot, would you be calling on an end to high schoolers being able to park on school property? Of course not, and driving kills far more people per year than gun violence. And it's not a protected right in the Bill of Rights. |
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02-23-2018, 02:08 PM | #47 | |
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When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle. When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-23-2018, 02:10 PM | #48 |
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02-23-2018, 02:16 PM | #49 | |
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I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction. We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year. All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have. |
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02-23-2018, 02:19 PM | #50 |
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There are steps to take, but to blame the object (gun) as the primary focus ignores the realities that there are a lot of other steps that can be taken and have more net positive effect.
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02-23-2018, 02:22 PM | #51 |
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Common sense laws are all any reasonable people are looking for, low hanging fruit like raising the age to 21 and strict background checks. Why is that so much to ask for without the response being you’re coming for our guns
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02-23-2018, 02:22 PM | #52 | |
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I have never seen fertilizer advertisements showing bomb as an option for it. But start buying a bunch and watch the government come checking. And let's cut the crap that guns save lives. They do not perform CPR or perform surgery. They just wound or kill others. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-23-2018, 02:28 PM | #53 | |
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I would also want everyone licensed before they can have one. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-23-2018, 02:34 PM | #54 | |
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02-23-2018, 02:35 PM | #55 | |
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It's asinine. Nobody needs an AR15, they do far more harm than good in society so thus should be banned. Background checks should require everyone to sit in front of as many qualified individuals who can assess human behavior and identify mental stability and emotional state. But ultimately, fuck you, I like my gun.
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02-23-2018, 02:37 PM | #56 | |
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Fixing someone's mental health - the right acts like that's as simple as going to the doctor and getting antibiotics for a sore throat.
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02-23-2018, 02:40 PM | #57 |
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02-23-2018, 02:48 PM | #58 | |
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Bit more difficult to go on a spree with limited ammo or if you have to manually chamber a round. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk |
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02-23-2018, 03:19 PM | #59 | |
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I see other ways , to own you must have a license and you must have insurance and yes tax the hell out of ammo and the guns themselves. You must pass a test like you do for a car and finally a physical evaluation.
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02-23-2018, 04:05 PM | #60 | |
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Yup, guns > our children too apparently 20 years of this senseless shit and no real changes |
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