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09-08-2024, 11:08 AM | #46 | ||
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But politicians write all of these tax codes, including Kamala Harris. Democrats are just as responsible as writing all the bullshit tax-codes as republicans are. I don't buy for a second, that the tax code will change any more with her as President, than it did under anyone else. Every democratic presidential candidate says they're going to make these drastic changes. Biden didn't do it, Obama didn't do it, and Harris won't do it either. To be fair to them, I don't even know if it's possible for a president to really do anything anyways, because most of congress also benefits from the current system (both sides). It's just a great talking point you can throw out there every election. If she wins and actually manages to accomplish that, then I'll tip my hat to her. But it's all political-speak to me until proven otherwise. Give me a flat tax, with no write-offs or anything. No one pays any taxes on the 1st 50K they make or 100k for joint filers, then everything above that is taxed at 25% (give or take a couple % points). That's it, that's the tax code. Of course it will never pass because then both sides can't use taxes as a political weapon, all the rich fuckers can't bribe anyone, and politicians don't get their kickbacks. The main reason I'm conservative is I don't trust our federal government. I want as limited as a government as possible, including things like drastically simplyfying the tax code.
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09-08-2024, 12:04 PM | #47 |
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Tax rates assuming I was in the same tax group now since I started working in 1999 and going through 2024:
2018 - 2024: 24.00% 2003 - 2017: 28.00% 2002: 30% 2001: 30.5% 1999 - 2000: 31% https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/f...ates-brackets/ Yeah, sign me up for the Trump tax plan over any other president since I've been working. If Kamala wins, I hope my fair share/middle class taxes do not increase past 24.00%.
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09-09-2024, 10:20 AM | #48 | |
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09-09-2024, 12:57 PM | #49 | |
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09-09-2024, 02:53 PM | #50 | |
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I however am not sold on the flat tax just because 25% (going with the example) to someone making 51K is a much bigger impact than some one making 200k. I don't have the answers. While I have been told I am aesthetically pleasing to look at I am not nearly handsome enough to be a politician.
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09-09-2024, 04:17 PM | #51 | |
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A person making 200K would pay $37,500 (25% on 150k).
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09-09-2024, 04:37 PM | #52 | |
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From your own link . In 2023, 21.8 million adults ages 18–64 (10.9%) were uninsured. This was lower than 2022, when 24.3 million adults ages 18–64 (12.2%) were uninsured. Actually proves more people are signing up as the ACA gets improvments.
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09-17-2024, 01:05 PM | #53 | |
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Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total. |
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09-17-2024, 01:28 PM | #54 |
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09-22-2024, 01:31 PM | #56 | |
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As for @nonnie's comment directed at me which claimed many if not most high earners were Democrats again I am talking about the untra wealthy. The truth is the 50 wealthiest families breakdown is 56% Republican and only 14% Democrat with the balance split between 2 spouces. Here is the list of the top 10 richest families and their party affiliation: 1. Walton – Republican 2. Koch – Republican 3. Mars – Republican 4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican 5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican 6. Hearst – Republican 7. Cox – Democrat 8. Pritzker – Both 9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican 10. Duncan – Republican Last edited by Darrell Green Fan; 09-23-2024 at 08:15 AM. |
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