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Old 10-14-2011, 08:48 AM   #1
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Interestingly (at least to me), this will be the first opponent this year that we don't have a FA starter from them:
NYG - Cofield
Ari - Hightower
Dallas - Bowen
St. Louis - Atogwe
Um...Sav Rocca
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:55 AM   #2
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Um...Sav Rocca
Wow, forgot about him, but hey-he's just the punter :cheeky-sm

Still interesting how much of our FA signings came from opponents we play this year early, I wonder if it had to do with focused study on early opponents. I don't know, probably just coincidence, but I don't think that happens a ton around the league.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:06 AM   #3
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Old 10-14-2011, 09:48 AM   #4
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I think some are giving way too much credit to Philly. Sure they have talent at the skill positions but they simply are not playing good fundamental football and they have glaring weaknesses on the OL and in their LB corps.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:08 AM   #5
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I think some are giving way too much credit to Philly. Sure they have talent at the skill positions but they simply are not playing good fundamental football and they have glaring weaknesses on the OL and in their LB corps.
My problem though is still with the bad Oline play, questionable playcalling, and average QB play...Eagles Offense still managed 489 yards total offense vs Bills, and the week before against a pretty solid 49ers defense put up 513 total yards. I think Philly's issues on offense are much easier to fix than their defense.

We are by no means a team who can survive a shootout with Philly, we are not built like that. We need to control the ball on offense and keep the Iggles off the field. Time of possesion, we are averaging something like 33 mins per game, thats helping us win. Run the ball.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:11 AM   #6
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My problem though is still with the bad Oline play, questionable playcalling, and average QB play...Eagles Offense still managed 489 yards total offense vs Bills, and the week before against a pretty solid 49ers defense put up 513 total yards. I think Philly's issues on offense are much easier to fix than their defense.

We are by no means a team who can survive a shootout with Philly, we are not built like that.
We need to control the ball on offense and keep the Iggles off the field. Time of possesion, we are averaging something like 33 mins per game, thats helping us win. Run the ball.
I completely agree. This is not an give-me win by any stretch. The Eagles will turn it around at some point. Just hope it is not against us.
The addition of our new FS Atogwe and the return to health of Dirty 30 at SS instead of FS (this time), will make a big difference in not giving up the long plays we gave them last year. Buchanon is back to add solid depth and the improved play of Barnes and Westbrook will help. We control Vick (passing /scrambling) and the passing game and we should win.
We have to be careful with our blitzing. Don't want to see a repeat of the ill advised blitzing of the Dallas game.
The Eagles defensive front 7 is weak and undisciplined against the run. Thier DE's especially Babin are having all kinds of problem containing and setting the edge. This bodes well for the stretch run plays and play action.
Yertle the Turtle Grossman will have to unload the ball quickly. Hopefully he spent the bye week working on his footwork and his set up speed. He needs to find another gear in speeding up his set up to throw, especially in the play action. It is painfully slow. The Eagles can rush the passer and create Grossman's most consistent move, the turnover.
Grossman needs to protect the ball. Please

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Old 10-14-2011, 06:46 PM   #7
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I think some are giving way too much credit to Philly. Sure they have talent at the skill positions but they simply are not playing good fundamental football and they have glaring weaknesses on the OL and in their LB corps.
I totally agree. It's as if Philly has taken over the roll of the Cowboys. These so-called analysts go running-off-at-the-mouth in the preseason about how great the Eagles are gonna be; and now, no matter how many games they lose in embarrassing fashion, they will still be considered a "dangerous" team, and "loaded with talent" all the way through week 17, and on into next year.

A talented player is one that consistently performs at a high level. The same can be said of a talented team. If you have a bunch of big names on your team that are not performing consistently at a high level, you aren't loaded with talent, you are loaded with big names that used to be talented. These are the same people that thought signing "Prime" after his prime was a great idea, because he was so "talented".

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Old 10-14-2011, 10:14 AM   #8
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Yeah with all the yards and points they put up, they also shoot themselves in the foot time and time again with turnovers. That's a big problem, and more than just a little bad luck.
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Yeah with all the yards and points they put up, they also shoot themselves in the foot time and time again with turnovers. That's a big problem, and more than just a little bad luck.
What I do like with the match up, is Philly has a ton of pressure on them. This is a must win for them early. AND this type of must win has job implications on the coaching staff. I really believe for the first time in Reid's career that the calls for his firing along with his Defense cordinator (Juan) are very valid. Leadership on that team is a mess too. Vick has looked bad on camera lately and too many new guys on that defense.
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What I do like with the match up, is Philly has a ton of pressure on them. This is a must win for them early. AND this type of must win has job implications on the coaching staff. I really believe for the first time in Reid's career that the calls for his firing along with his Defense cordinator (Juan) are very valid. Leadership on that team is a mess too. Vick has looked bad on camera lately and too many new guys on that defense.
Right, this is why we NEED. POINTS. EARLY. I see the "us against the world" mentality as a potential positive for the Eagles, especially if they come out sharp. It becomes "us vs. us" if the Redskins force the same mistakes and expose the same weaknesses that the Eagles team/media/fans have been stewing about for a week.
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Right, this is why we NEED. POINTS. EARLY. I see the "us against the world" mentality as a potential positive for the Eagles, especially if they come out sharp. It becomes "us vs. us" if the Redskins force the same mistakes and expose the same weaknesses that the Eagles team/media/fans have been stewing about for a week.
Well I expect Philly to come out razor sharp on offense. I expect them to be agressive, we need to match that aggressiveness with our defense. And this year we can.

I know this might sound crazy, but I would prefer us to run early. I would like to see the playcall run run run until we cross the 50, and then open up the passing game. Rex needs to protect the ball better and giving Philly a short field to work with whether its special teams or us turning the ball over will lose us the game. I would like a Helu package in the redzone...the guy is too fast not to be getting the ball there.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:01 AM   #12
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Leadership on that team is a mess too. Vick has looked bad on camera lately and too many new guys on that defense.
I cant remember whom on ESPN I heard talk about this last year, I think it was John Clayton, who said how Vick was acting now was not as telling as how he acted once he was a super star again. I think Vick is acting entitled and arrogant and I think that is who he actually is. I was all for giving Vick a second chance and letting the dog fighting thing go, but he is starting to act like a spoiled rich kid again.
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I cant remember whom on ESPN I heard talk about this last year, I think it was John Clayton, who said how Vick was acting now was not as telling as how he acted once he was a super star again. I think Vick is acting entitled and arrogant and I think that is who he actually is. I was all for giving Vick a second chance and letting the dog fighting thing go, but he is starting to act like a spoiled rich kid again.
Well i really wouldnt expect anything different. Majority act entitled and arrogant.

I know alotta people say vick vick vick as a problem with the eagles...granted he hasnt been great, pretty average. But the blame to me would be the Oline and the entire defense.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:02 PM   #14
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This is a game that will tell us a lot about the 2011 Washington Redskins.

There is no question that the Skins are a better team this year than they were last year -- or the two years prior to last year. They have more talent; they are more focused; they are more of a team. The question that remains about the 2011 Redskins is:
Just how good are they?
One thing that good teams do in the NFL is this:
When they face either an inferior opponent or an opponent that is having internal troubles, a good NFL team will stomp on the throat of that kind of opponent and never let them be "in the game".
I am not looking for the Skins to win 59-28 to avenge last year. But they need to win this game decisively and to control it from the opening kickoff if they are going to be seen as something other than merely "improved over last year".
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:21 AM   #15
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I saw an interview with "someone" who questioned whether the Iggles players had really prepared themselves or did they think they would just walk over people? I'm not sure if that's part of their problem or not but their defense can definitely be taken advantage of.
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