Around the NFL - 2023 Offseason Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Teams are always going to want to avoid giving any players big pay days. Also, Cousins didn't want to be here, so people really need to stop using a comparison.

However, using Cousins as an example, a lot of Vikings fans are upset that he gets paid these crazy fully guaranteed deals, yet his ceiling seems to be one and done in the playoffs. But he provides steady QB play, if they move on from him, what's their plan?

The same with the Giants, yes it is risky to sign Jones, but what do they do if they move on from him? They have a late round pick in the draft, they are not getting a QB in the draft.

Well we franchised Cousins twice instead of locking him up and I think he took that as they don’t want me. Quarterback purgatory happens when you lock a guy up for big money and he isn’t worth that money. Can happen if you don’t lock them up too. Like I said it is a tricky situation.
Alot of people are bringing up Dak in comparison to Jones, but Dak threw for 30 plus touchdowns twice before his deal. It was a no brainer that now seemingly isn’t panning out. I don’t blame Dallas though for locking him up when they did. Jones is just a completely different story. 15 td’s. Uggh.

Anyway we can all rejoice when Daniel Jones implodes due to the pressure on him now, Dak continues to turn the ball over at an alarming rate getting paid big money also, and Howell becomes the steal of the 2022 draft!

[MTK]

@AndrewBrandt
Daniel Jones contract.
Reported from sources (agents):
4 years, $160 million
Reality:
2 years, $82 million.
Still a very good deal. $12 million more than Derek Carr, who was a free agent.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

@AndrewBrandt
Daniel Jones contract.
Reported from sources (agents):
4 years, $160 million
Reality:
2 years, $82 million.
Still a very good deal. $12 million more than Derek Carr, who was a free agent.

Doug Rush
@TheDougRush
Daniel Jones’ contract breakdown in full:

2023: $9.5M base salary. $19M cap hit.
2024: $35.5M base salary. $45.5M cap hit.
2025: $30M base salary. $39.5M cap hit.
2026: $46M base salary, $56.5M cap hit.

If released before 2025: the Giants can save $21M with an $18.5M cap hit.

If released before 2026: the Giants can save $47.5M with a $9M cap hit.

[MTK]

Given the slim pickings at QB last year, I think teams will be extra aggressive going after them in this draft. The top 10 is going to be a QB feeding frenzy. Raw or not I like the upside with Richardson.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Given the slim pickings at QB last year, I think teams will be extra aggressive going after them in this draft. The top 10 is going to be a QB feeding frenzy. Raw or not I like the upside with Richardson.

I do too. He's the perfect QB, in my opinion, to draft early and stash/develop at the next level for a year (or maybe less).

Unfortunately I don't think we are in the position to do that this year...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I do too. He's the perfect QB, in my opinion, to draft early and stash/develop at the next level for a year (or maybe less).

Unfortunately I don't think we are in the position to do that this year...

We aren’t unless we snatch an G or T in free agency. Than you draft another oline in second round. I would give up the corner whether it be in the draft/free agency because I think our dbacks are enough. Go after an ILB and Oline. Chase has a big ole bounce back year and the D is solid. Oline is fixed. Bingo Superbowl (just did a shot n a beer feelin rather optimistic).
If Sam pans out and we got T-Rich in the wings it’s a problem I can deal with.

[davy]

Reality check...

Final week of season... 9 of 27 33.3%
2 weeks previous... 11 of 23 47.8%
2 weeks previous... 18 of 37 48.6%

That is Anthony Richardson.

No thank you under any circumstance.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by davy

Reality check...

Final week of season... 9 of 27 33.3%
2 weeks previous... 11 of 23 47.8%
2 weeks previous... 18 of 37 48.6%

That is Anthony Richardson.

No thank you under any circumstance.

Anthony Richardson:

Final season 2022 53.8%
Previous year (2021) 59.4%
Previous year (2020) only threw two passes


Here's Josh Allen (who he is most compared to):

Final season 2017 - 152 of 270 56.3%
Previous year (2016) 56%
Previous year (2015) only two games


He won't be drafted for his college accomplishments, as much as he will be drafted for his immense potential.

[Are Jay]

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...Wp4Gow4eRjPyzg

Compensation update, per sources: Bears trading No. 1 overall pick to Carolina for:

🏈pick No. 9
🏈pick No. 61
🏈a first-round pick in 2024
🏈a second-round pick in 2025
🏈WR DJ Moore

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Are Jay

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...Wp4Gow4eRjPyzg

Compensation update, per sources: Bears trading No. 1 overall pick to Carolina for:

🏈pick No. 9
🏈pick No. 61
🏈a first-round pick in 2024
🏈a second-round pick in 2025
🏈WR DJ Moore

For this QB class that was a lot to give up

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Are Jay

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...Wp4Gow4eRjPyzg

Compensation update, per sources: Bears trading No. 1 overall pick to Carolina for:

🏈pick No. 9
🏈pick No. 61
🏈a first-round pick in 2024
🏈a second-round pick in 2025
🏈WR DJ Moore

Oof...

Carolina must feel really strongly about one of these QBs. Wonder who it is.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Oof...

Carolina must feel really strongly about one of these QBs. Wonder who it is.

Gotta be Bryce young

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gotta be Bryce young

probably stroud?

either way, good on Bears I guess. If they miss the next aaron rogers they'll be kicking themselves for 12 years, but that's +4 quality pickups to go down 8 spots.

[AnonEmouse]

Well done Chicago, presuming they get value from those picks. Jury will of course be out on Carolina until whoever they draft (my money would be on Young) proves themselves (or otherwise), but right now it seems too one sided a deal. And so they draft a QB; who's he going to throw to? They gave up picks and Moore in the deal so how do they provide that QB with targets?

Trying to remember the last true blockbuster trade that worked out great for one side, let alone both. 🤔

[EdmundDorf]

Leaves Colts in an interesting position, what if another team jumps up to the Cardinals pick just before the draft to get QB #3......