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Old 12-11-2018, 02:12 PM   #1
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Re: Should Gruden be fired ?

Remember in the Off-Season when Jay said, "The team is built to win now. Alex was brought in here to lead that team." Or something along those lines...

WELL, either Jay misjudged the talent on this roster or it's not being utilized properly... Which is it Jay!?
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:18 PM   #2
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Re: Should Gruden be fired ?

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Remember in the Off-Season when Jay said, "The team is built to win now. Alex was brought in here to lead that team." Or something along those lines...

WELL, either Jay misjudged the talent on this roster or it's not being utilized properly... Which is it Jay!?
In fairness to Jay we were winning when AS was healthy.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:26 PM   #3
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In fairness to Jay we were winning when AS was healthy.
That's true. I wasn't all that serious with my post either. I mean, he did say that but it's typical off-season talk.

I was more commenting on the way a narrative can shift. Before the season we all felt that this roster was very talented and capable of the post-season. Now as our season starts to fall apart we're finding holes all over the place that need to be addressed.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:34 PM   #4
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Remember in the Off-Season when Jay said, "The team is built to win now. Alex was brought in here to lead that team." Or something along those lines...

WELL, either Jay misjudged the talent on this roster or it's not being utilized properly... Which is it Jay!?
I think my issue with Jay in the offseason is that once he saw that his starting wideouts and Reed were not practicing or playing in the preseason, he should have given Alex more time in preseason games.

Also, in regards to the Guard position, my criticism is not just that they depended on Luvao, but did not keep any linemen in the PS that they would be willing to use in an emergency.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:54 PM   #5
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I think my issue with Jay in the offseason is that once he saw that his starting wideouts and Reed were not practicing or playing in the preseason, he should have given Alex more time in preseason games.

Also, in regards to the Guard position, my criticism is not just that they depended on Luvao, but did not keep any linemen in the PS that they would be willing to use in an emergency.
Dead on.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:35 PM   #6
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Re: Should Gruden be fired ?

I just listened to Jay Gruden's Wednesday press conference...he was asked about Mason Foster's tweets about trashing the organization and the Redskins fans....he simply excused the player for his transgressions....

That's the problem with this team and coach....players are not accountable! He doesn't care that a player trashed the team and fans because it was a private conversation? Get a clue Jay you are part of the dysfunction and culture that needs to change!
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:43 PM   #7
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Re: Should Gruden be fired ?

Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?
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Old 12-12-2018, 10:31 PM   #8
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Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?


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Old 12-13-2018, 12:00 PM   #9
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Hindsight is 20-20, but what if Gruden has been fired last year and we promoted McVay to HC?
McVay left after 2016....he was with the Rams HC last year....

But Gruden would not have been fired last year....
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Old 12-13-2018, 05:26 PM   #10
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McVay left after 2016....he was with the Rams HC last year....

But Gruden would not have been fired last year....
That’s what I meant! Just seeing if everyone was paying attention.
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Old 12-12-2018, 04:49 PM   #11
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Re: Should Gruden be fired ?

Foster would already be off the team if I was in charge.
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Foster would already be off the team if I was in charge.
Him and DJ Swearinger would both be gone if it was any other team in the NFL.

It seems like the guys with the biggest bark on social media / etc. have been the shittiest players for us this season. Both guys should really just STFU and let their play do the talking. I'm not upset that they are upset about our trash organization. But i do believe there is a right way to handle it / privately address it with coaches / etc. Social media is not the right way, IMO.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:52 AM   #13
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Him and DJ Swearinger would both be gone if it was any other team in the NFL.

It seems like the guys with the biggest bark on social media / etc. have been the shittiest players for us this season. Both guys should really just STFU and let their play do the talking. I'm not upset that they are upset about our trash organization. But i do believe there is a right way to handle it / privately address it with coaches / etc. Social media is not the right way, IMO.
This organization just refuses to set any kind of example. Just a complete systematic failure that never gets fixed.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:22 PM   #14
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How has no one been fired? I still don't understand.
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:59 PM   #15
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How has no one been fired? I still don't understand.
Well let's see.

Option A. DS has learned wisdom and perspective through the years, and is sticking to his old promise not to fire anyone during the season.

Option B. DS has learned nothing, and thinks injuries are an acceptable reason for this raging dumpster fire.

Option C. DS is waiting to fire Gruden/co. but is still soliciting BA's opinion out of reverence for his father.

Option D. DS is bound and gagged in his basement (and hasn't watched since we were 6-3) and Allen is calling all the shots now.

Option E. DS is still stupid and is waiting until after the season to fire BA (when there's really no good reason to wait, let's get a head start on everybody else and let the new GM figure out whether to fire Gruden/co. at the end of the season).

Option F. DS is determined to find a new GM before he fires Allen, and the ball rolls from there.
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