We've got big trouble on the OL.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yeah, you gotta like the part where Shanny said that TW is more focused than he's ever been. That doesn't seem like ordinary coach-speak.

Yeah he sounds locked in.

I think Trent is going to be ok as far as far as his off the field stuff. Davis still concerns me, but then again he's a good year away from a big payday so if that doesn't inspire him to lay off the smoke nothing will.

[Dirtbag59]

Who ever thought that 3 words could do so much harm.

[MTK]

Speaking of Trent, I just found this

NFL Tuesday Redskins training camp thoughts - ESPN

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Speaking of Trent, I just found this

NFL Tuesday Redskins training camp thoughts - ESPN

Thanks for sharing, Mattyk.

Trent Williams seems to be coming together. But he's nowhere near where Chris Samuels was heading into his third season in the NFL.

That was an overall informative report.

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Speaking of Trent, I just found this

NFL Tuesday Redskins training camp thoughts - ESPN

Hail Yeah! Silverback is in the building!

[30gut]

If the guys pegged as your quality depth are starting then who is your depth?

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

It comes done to who they thought they were getting a steal on. That's how Shanny has described the pick of cousins. They really liked the guy and he was there so... He's on our football team. It was an area of need that he saw he could fill.

Honestly would a 4th round pick t right now make you feel that much better about our line?

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

It comes done to who they thought they were getting a steal on. That's how Shanny has described the pick of cousins. They really liked the guy and he was there so... He's on our football team. It was an area of need that he saw he could fill.

Honestly would a 4th round pick t right now make you feel that much better about our line?

I agree. Besides, it too early to tell how this line is gonna gel. Just being positively hopeful.

Maurice Brown
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[30gut]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Honestly would a 4th round pick t right now make you feel that much better about our line?

And why not be more specific as to the position? And why limit it to 4th round? How about a 3rd round RT or a 4th round RT both of those would make me feel better about the OL.

take your pick:
2012 NFL Draft Tracker – NFL.com

Especially when you consider that Mike Shanahan has often found quality starting OL in that range and later.

Hopefully the FO will figure something out and the RT position will not be a liability.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by 30gut

And why not be more specific as to the position? And why limit it to 4th round? How about a 3rd round RT or a 4th round RT both of those would make me feel better about the OL.

take your pick:
2012 NFL Draft Tracker – NFL.com

Especially when you consider that Mike Shanahan has often found quality starting OL in that range and later.

Hopefully the FO will figure something out and the RT position will not be a liability.

Your guess is as good as mine, and I would say that Mcribb was seen as a guy who was who they had targeted for that spot for whatever reason. Just bringing in a tackle at that spot for the same of bringing in a tackle doesn't make sense when you have a higher rated player.

I did specify a position in my post with a little lower case t.

[30gut]

(Nothing against LeRib he's the kind of OL I like, I'm a draft junkie and heard about LeRib in a few articles by Gil Brandt)

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I would say that Mcribb was seen as a guy who was who they had targeted for that spot for whatever reason. Just bringing in a tackle at that spot for the same of bringing in a tackle doesn't make sense when you have a higher rated player.

Well of course 'just bringing' a player at any position for the sake of bringing a player never makes sense in that case.

Teams draft the players they have rated higher on their boards.
So according to their boards the picks they make are usually 'correct' based on their boards.
But, that doesn't make the decision correct in actuality.
Only time can judge whether or not a team made a correct evaluation in drafting vs passing on a player.

I did specify a position in my post with a little lower case t.

My bad then, I didn' know what that lil t was, i thought it was a typo.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by 30gut

(Nothing against LeRib he's the kind of OL I like, I'm a draft junkie and heard about LeRib in a few articles by Gil Brandt)

Well of course 'just bringing' a player at any position for the sake of bringing a player never makes sense in that case.

Teams draft the players they have rated higher on their boards.
So according to their boards the picks they make are usually 'correct' based on their boards.
But, that doesn't make the decision correct in actuality.
Only time can judge whether or not a team made a correct evaluation in drafting vs passing on a player.

My bad then, I didn' know what that lil t was, i thought it was a typo.

I agree with you 100% on the fact that teams don't make the correct decisions in the draft based on their ratings. If they did I am sure players would have longer average careers the 3 years and hell we may not even need to have a seven round draft every year.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

It comes done to who they thought they were getting a steal on. That's how Shanny has described the pick of cousins. They really liked the guy and he was there so... He's on our football team. It was an area of need that he saw he could fill.

Honestly would a 4th round pick t right now make you feel that much better about our line?

Personally I think we should have taken OT Bobbie Massie rather than Cousins. As far as I am concerned Massie is a better player than Cousins and he filled a need. I said this much on draft day.

But to answer your question, I still would not be psyched about Massie starting at RT right this second, even if we had drafted him.

[RGIII]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Personally I think we should have taken OT Bobbie Massie rather than Cousins. As far as I am concerned Massie is a better player than Cousins and he filled a need. I said this much on draft day.

But to answer your question, I still would not be psyched about Massie starting at RT right this second, even if we had drafted him.

What type of camp is Massie having right now? He's probably getting run over the "Rob Jacksons" of the league...

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by RGIII

What type of camp is Massie having right now? He's probably getting run over the "Rob Jacksons" of the league...

I couldn't find a report on his camp. Maybe his is being run over, as you described. That's what you expect from a first week rookie. That's why I said I would not be psyched to start him right now.