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Old 03-31-2020, 09:39 PM   #106
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chico , you wonder why people don't respect your views?
“MyPillow CEO Lindell said his bedding company would be dedicating 75% of its manufacturing to producing cotton face masks, aiming to get up to 50,000 a day by end of this week.”

You asked what the eff is this...the answer is in the article, 50,000 face mask a day. So that’s pretty good right?
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:52 AM   #107
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The issue that i am beginning to fear, is that Trump is going to use / continue the "shutdowns" for political gains. To be clear, i am saying that I don't believe he will attempt to restart the economy after April 30th. I think he will extend it 90 more days, possibly even beyond, only to start "opening things back up" as part of his re-election campaign. I can hear the ads now having him mention how "he" instructed governors to put people back to work, open businesses again, etc..

Does my theory hold any water or not? I am a person who is fairly new to politics myself, i started getting more involved in them around six months ago, and to say the least, i have learned a lot of things about myself as i have came into my own political views and not those impressed on me by friends , parents, etc....

I do believe Trump will keep things shut down as long as possible until he gets to the point where he has his entire staff / advisors on him screaming that to continue any further he is causing permanent damage to the USA that can never be repaired, ie 100 times worse than the great Depression, with no exit strategy / scenario this time around though.
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:12 AM   #108
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I don’t think a 90 day shutdown past April is realistic


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Old 04-01-2020, 12:22 PM   #109
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The economy is Trumps feather in the hat. He wants it all running again ASAP.
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:50 PM   #110
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I don't think Trump is trying to keep the economy shut, instead his issue will more likely be opening it too soon.

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Old 04-01-2020, 01:34 PM   #111
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He needs to keep following what Fauci is telling him. Thank god for that guy.


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Old 04-01-2020, 01:43 PM   #112
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He needs to keep following what Fauci is telling him. Thank god for that guy.


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Old 04-01-2020, 04:04 PM   #113
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“MyPillow CEO Lindell said his bedding company would be dedicating 75% of its manufacturing to producing cotton face masks, aiming to get up to 50,000 a day by end of this week.”

You asked what the eff is this...the answer is in the article, 50,000 face mask a day. So that’s pretty good right?
Good yes , and many , many others are doing good YES???? Still you don't let and idiot like him take over the virus briefing .....it's fucking stupid chico ......just admit it.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:05 PM   #114
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Yes.................but will he?
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:07 PM   #115
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I don't think end of May is realistic ,the country has to get back to work .
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:17 PM   #116
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Yes.................but will he?
Fauci has said multiple times that if he had his way, he would have human beings not come into contact with each other until August.

Fauci has also said that it is inevitable that there will be a second wave of re-infections in the Fall, while pointing out that a vaccine is still two years away.

The only solution that leaves if Fauci/Trump is trying to minimize deaths & infections, is to have all Americans shelter in place for the next two years or so. I realize the financial implications, as well as everything else that comes from people doing suicides, drug overdosing, etc...

And i think that's what it comes down to. Most places have only suspended foreclosures, etc. for three months. 3 months is not nearly long enough. At what point does the US Government eliminate the mortgage debt? In six more months from now, there will probably be close to 200 million people unemployed. 100 million foreclosures? Even mortgage companies are only offering forbearance at this point for three or four months. There's no way that the states can continue to pay unemployment for that many people for that long.

Virginia right now has the longest order in place - Shelter in place until June 10th. Governor also said just today in the press briefing that the expectation is that they will extend it. So for Virginians, best case scenario is sometime in July / August.
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Old 04-01-2020, 04:25 PM   #117
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.....and there is this.


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rush-...115103294.html

Rush Limbaugh: Economy Being Destroyed 'Under The Guise' Of Saving Lives
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:01 PM   #118
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.....and there is this.


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rush-...115103294.html

Rush Limbaugh: Economy Being Destroyed 'Under The Guise' Of Saving Lives
I am of the controversial view that letting the economy collapse and have millions of people out of work will be far more damning than people dying from the virus. Let me be clear, i don't' want people to die, but i wish the government had a way to try and do both at the same time, try and emphasize public safety while still taking baby steps, etc.. on restarting the economy.

It just seems like the people that are advising Trump may be of the opinion that things have to be shut down for as long as possible...
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:24 PM   #119
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I am of the controversial view that letting the economy collapse and have millions of people out of work will be far more damning than people dying from the virus. Let me be clear, i don't' want people to die, but i wish the government had a way to try and do both at the same time, try and emphasize public safety while still taking baby steps, etc.. on restarting the economy.

It just seems like the people that are advising Trump may be of the opinion that things have to be shut down for as long as possible...
I agree with you. I do think that hibernating for 3,6 or 10 months is not the answer .No I don't want people to die either and we all must be safe but I am struggling with trying to understand how Marshal Law will protect us from a virus?
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Old 04-01-2020, 05:26 PM   #120
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I agree with you. I do think that hibernating for 3,6 or 10 months is not the answer .No I don't want people to die either and we all must be safe but I am struggling with trying to understand how Marshal Law will protect us from a virus?
Well then lets both / all just hope that when April is over, somehow there is a plan in place to restart the country, and hope that they dont decide that keep waiting is the best option, unless they plan on some sort of bailout package that eliminates all homeowner mortgages, etc...
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