Redskins Expected to Release Coles

[Redskins_P]

Great news to wake up to. Unfreakingbelievable.

[SKINSnCANES]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1996404

an espn article. Talks about how its going to be a mess. We take a 9 millino dollar hit if we trade him, or no hit but no compensation

[Daseal]

Like Offiss I'm scared this is an omen that the offense isn't seen to be evolving. Both of our starting WR's are ASKING for trades. That is NOT a good sign by any means. It probably means we're going to run the same ultra-conservative miserable offense.

I like Coles attitude. He's going about this the right way. I hate to see him go but it's better than having him here if he doesn't want to be. I think a Mason FA pickup, and a guy through the draft is our best course of action. I think Jacobs is ready to step into the limelight - even though Spurrier took a ton of shit for drafting him -- he was the right pick. Blazing fast with great hands. We need to seriously look at McCants. I think we'll want to keep him.

More than anything - this makes me worry about our team. Does Smoot not want to resign because he thinks we won't win? Are our offensive troubles THAT bad? I guess we'll see next season.

[MTK]

Smoot wants cash, if he show him the money he'll be back in a heartbeat.

[Daseal]

I'm just saying - it makes you wonder. Has he priced himself out of our range on purpose?

BTW: I'm going to start posting large pictures till I get another avatar!

[e16bball]

In the ESPN article, it mentions that the Skins might be backing off of their agreement in order to pursue a trade...that doesnt seem possible however due to the huge cap hit which we cannot afford. Does anyone think there is a possibility that they will back off to the extent that they will hold him to his contract?

I'm not big on keeping guys who don't want to be around, but let's face it. Even if we pick up Mason or a Mike Williams in the draft, neither of them will be as solid as LC was. With Gardner's loss added in, our receiver corps becomes even thinner. I really thought next year we would be able to compete, with just a few choice FAs and a solid draft. It seemed like we had most of the pieces in place. This turn of events leaves us with a GAPING hole at WR, and will seriously impede Ramsey's development. LC was his go-to-guy.

Another thing I don't understand is that if Gibbs saw this coming, why did he basically rule out signing a FA WR in his radio show? Not that it will be much of an issue. If LC doesn't want to play in our offense, why would someone like a Derrick Mason or a Muhsin Muhammad want to? Those guys are getting up in years, and probably wouldn't want to end their careers in an offense that makes WRs run away. Plus, we don't have the cap flexibility (from what I understand) to go with our usual routine of outbidding everyone else. I'm definitely not optimistic.

[MTK]

I'm guessing the team just wants to explore all it's options before they release him, I can't see a way they could afford to deal him, the cap hit is just too much to absorb.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'm so upset about this and normally I try to look at the more optimistic side of it. I just want to see some good FA and draft pickups and we'll laugh at Gardner and (unfortunately because I loved the guy) Coles all the way to the playoffs. I just hope and pray it won't be one of those "Trotter situations" where each one of those players will have a "career game" when they play the Redskins.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm guessing the team just wants to explore all it's options before they release him, I can't see a way they could afford to deal him, the cap hit is just too much to absorb.

If it is at all possible I trade him and do what I have to do to absorb that cap hit this year, if there is a way for us to legitamatly stay within the cap I do it suffer his hit this year and pick up some draft pick's for this or next year, we may have to take a step back this season as far as personel, from what I saw last year you would have a hard time convincing me we will contend for a SB next season, this is where contract's like Lavar's and Brunell's come back to bite us in the a**, we may winde up just getting rid of a player who has significant value.

Choun's, I really like Antonio Brown but as a return specialist, I don't know about assuming he's a WR, there is a reason that a player with his kind of speed came to us via free agency, there is a big difference between having the speed of a WR and being a WR.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Someone said it in another post that there's a REASON he's only a return man. Whether it be a combination of bad hands/work ethic/etc.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

If it is at all possible I trade him and do what I have to do to absorb that cap hit this year, if there is a way for us to legitamatly stay within the cap I do it suffer his hit this year and pick up some draft pick's for this or next year, we may have to take a step back this season as far as personel, from what I saw last year you would have a hard time convincing me we will contend for a SB next season, this is where contract's like Lavar's and Brunell's come back to bite us in the a**, we may winde up just getting rid of a player who has significant value.

Choun's, I really like Antonio Brown but as a return specialist, I don't know about assuming he's a WR, there is a reason that a player with his kind of speed came to us via free agency, there is a big difference between having the speed of a WR and being a WR.

I'm not sure how we can afford to take a cap hit of nearly $10M, not matter how much creative cap work you do.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

But if anyone can do it, Danny Boy can do it. He's a genius. Sometimes he's not be favorite person in the world but I can't deny that he's an extremely smart man in the financial sense.

[CRT3]

Sounds to me that Mr. Barnes and Mr. Coles should be careful not to air this out in the media. The Redskins hold all the cards here. They can hold him to his contract and give him limited playing time which would affect his player incentive bonuses. While they might take a cap hit, the bottom line is he has a contract and if he intends on being somewhere else then he should just shut up. They can carry this all the way to and trhu trainning camp. Remember what happened to Keenan last year. So his value could very well be a high draft pick. The Redksins would be doing him a favor by releasing him early and they would expect somthing in value as a return. A #1 or the whole signning bonus is really his only option.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure how we can afford to take a cap hit of nearly $10M, not matter how much creative cap work you do.

I know it would be tough and unrealistic. What would we save if we sent Samuel's packing if that was the difference maker I would do it, Samuel's isn't a major cogg on this team.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by offiss

I know it would be tough and unrealistic. What would we save if we sent Samuel's packing if that was the difference maker I would do it, Samuel's isn't a major cogg on this team.

Why send samuels packing, then you would have 3 major wholes to fill,(2wr, Lt) common doggie!! I think to trade coles they would have to get some of the money back from him to lower his value and make it work.