2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Darrell Green Fan

Thanks for the correction, I meant to go with win a SB but when I changed it to appearances I omitted Cam and Kap. Wilson should be on the list as well. I am not considering Elway, Young Staubach etc because they were pass first QBs who had the ability to run but didn't do it that often.

So we are still left with Wilson as the only super mobile QB who has won a title.

I wouldn't so easily dismiss Young or Elway as not running very often. 4329 and 3407 respectively, both with a very good average YPC. Given their era where passers were pretty much purely pocket passers, those aren't casual numbers. They'd be closer too Mahomes (mobile) than Jackson (running), but having watched them play, I'd put them on the scale closer to Jackson than Mahomes.

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I wouldn't so easily dismiss Young or Elway as not running very often. 4329 and 3407 respectively, both with a very good average YPC. Given their era where passers were pretty much purely pocket passers, those aren't casual numbers. They'd be closer too Mahomes (mobile) than Jackson (running), but having watched them play, I'd put them on the scale closer to Jackson than Mahomes.

Yeah but we are talking about 2 of the elite passers of our lifetime and that's what made them all time greats. Young averaged 25 rushing yards a game, Elway 14. So I can't put them in the same group as Lamar, Kyler, Vick etc. because they were different types of QBs.

[Chico23231]

Couple things I’ve heard from the so called experts about this draft class coming out:

1. Great at class at every position along the Oline. Deep
2. Weak class at TE and pass rushers.
3. Inside Dline and WR class is solid.
4. Considered a decent QB class.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Couple things I’ve heard from the so called experts about this draft class coming out:

1. Great at class at every position along the Oline. Deep
2. Weak class at TE and pass rushers.
3. Inside Dline and WR class is solid.
4. Considered a decent QB class.

While I would broadly agree with your list, I would take issue with the fourth item, I think they consider it as good to great, the top two going into this were ranked in the top five QBs in the last decade in terms of rating coming out of college.

[Chief X_Phackter]

#2 is why we need to make Fant, Gesicki, or Schultz a priority, and target a couple Edge Rushers.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

#2 is why we need to make Fant, Gesicki, or Schultz a priority, and target a couple Edge Rushers.

Agreed except for Fant - for some reason, he haven't become the player everyone expected him to be after the draft. Also, I would be surprised if Texans don't resign Schultz.

[skinsfaninok]

The bears all but came out and said JF is gone.

Adam S posted it on X earlier


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[skinsfan69]

Fields should be happy that he's getting out of Chicago. But just not sure there are going to be a lot of suiters for him as far as being a starter is concerned. Maybe
Atlanta or New England.

Caleb is going to go there and he is going to really struggle. I feel like his only shot is when they blow out Euberflus, bring in an offense first coach that can really develop him. Maybe Kingsberry would possibly go after this year.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Agreed except for Fant - for some reason, he haven't become the player everyone expected him to be after the draft. Also, I would be surprised if Texans don't resign Schultz.

The main reason is that he just hasn't been that involved. Only 106 total targets the last two years with Seattle, compared to 177 for Schultz the last two years.

I think Fant would come cheaper and be just as (if not more ) productive here. He's a tad younger, just turning 26 as well.

Either way, can't bank on landing a good TE in the draft, so I think we have to go after one of the top TEs in FA.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Your comment made me wonder if now that they get paid in college the ones that don't really want it as bad will be easier to identify. In other words how did a player react after his first big check. Maybe the transition to the NFL and really big paydays won't be quite as drastic.

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That would make it so much easier to pick the right guy haha. We'll see I guess. Peters and co. have a tough decision to make, but one thing's for sure. If whoever they pick isn't the guy they need to keep swinging for the fences until they get that position locked down. Without it they'll be wasting years like Ron did.

[sdskinsfan2001]

If you build it (draft Daniels), they (victories) will come.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Is he gonna be the pick?

Gotta figure Williams is going #1, to CHI or someone else...

It's Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels or trade. As much as I'd like a haul of draft picks, it's going to be tough to pass on one of those QBs.

[Darrell Green Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Is he gonna be the pick?

Gotta figure Williams is going #1, to CHI or someone else...

It's Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels or trade. As much as I'd like a haul of draft picks, it's going to be tough to pass on one of those QBs.

No when you get the chance to draft a highly rated QB you pull the trigger and don't look back.

[skinsfan69]

I just turned on the Junkies and Quinn was on there. He was describing some of the QB's w/ one word, all nice stuff. But when they asked him about Daniels he said, " game changer" .. In other words, it was obvious that he likes Daniels above the other guys that were mentioned... Maye, Caleb, Howell...

[MTK]

I think they're going to be perfectly happy with taking Daniels at #2.