Media Bias

Chico23231 · 03-18-2021, 03:08 PM

Yeah when NBC news, cnn, John Acosta saying it early...it was fine.

Trump says it, bad. That’s really what it was about

Kinda like currently: kids housed in cages are fine now...Biden administration secretly working with Mexico to stop illegals coming in per NYT (another Trump policy), that’s fine too.

People who are easily offended are easily manipulated.

Chico23231 · 03-18-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

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I like Tucker and John Oliver

Everyone knows Tucker worked between CNN and MSNBC for like 10+ years and no one complained or has some secret tell all about him as a person? Folks have gone back and have tried to dig up dirt...and nothing. Zilch!

John Oliver: no trump, need a new target. Tucker! All right team get me everything Tucker as said racist..xenophobia, etc.
Team: not a lot of stuff boss
Oliver: ok...well cherry-pick the best borderline material
Team: ok got some
Oliver: I’ll play sound bights...then tell you what Tucker really means when he says something. When he says this....he really is saying this.

It’s what I expect from Oliver...everyone knows that right? You expected John Oliver to say a conservative commentator is not the most evil person in the world?

mooby · 03-18-2021, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

I honestly dont have a problem on the surface with people saying the China Flu or Wuhan Flu. By all known accounts ... it did originate from there.

My underlying problem is guys like Trump who seemed to coin it early on .. as if the nickname would absolve him from any responsibility and give the "America first" people a target to lay blame and direct anger.

Trumps MO was to try and nickname any incoming controversy so his herd would just repeat that and shut down any actual discussion or accountability.

Yeah it started in China and China sucks ... "shutting down flights from China bought you time .. but what did you do with that time to prepare?"

This.

When Trump started calling it the China Virus, he did so to deflect blame from himself for his admin's response and to focus all the attention back to China for starting it. Which does exactly fuck all to stop the virus.

Gotta wonder how many other first world countries politicized mask-wearing and safety measures. Conservatives don't have a problem with mask-wearing when it's doctors and nurses in the OR though. But why would they wear masks if the masks don't do anything?

mooby · 03-18-2021, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I like Tucker and John Oliver

Everyone knows Tucker worked between CNN and MSNBC for like 10+ years and no one complained or has some secret tell all about him as a person? Folks have gone back and have tried to dig up dirt...and nothing. Zilch!

John Oliver: no trump, need a new target. Tucker! All right team get me everything Tucker as said racist..xenophobia, etc.
Team: not a lot of stuff boss
Oliver: ok...well cherry-pick the best borderline material
Team: ok got some
Oliver: I’ll play sound bights...then tell you what Tucker really means when he says something. When he says this....he really is saying this.

It’s what I expect from Oliver...everyone knows that right? You expected John Oliver to say a conservative commentator is not the most evil person in the world?

LOLOLOL.

Implying Tucker is just the flavor of the week because he doesn't have Trump to pick on anymore like Tucker didn't shit all over the entire US military a week ago for making clothes for pregnant women. He goes after the trending topic of the week and he switches it up every week. This is nothing new.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-20-2021, 01:15 AM

I watch Fox News pretty regularly (I'd say about 2 times a week for Tucker and Shannon Bream), but I'd assume it's probably similar across CNN, etc. This is more of a grind the gears comment, but don't want to drag politics in there.

But I absolutely hate when shows have guests, and when they are giving a response you want to hear all of, the host cuts them off to go to commercials.

I get that commercials pay the bills, but either plan for less guests, or plan for the host talking less. Don't cut-off responses people want to hear.

More often than not, the guests actually share things you didn't know or speak about issues you are aware of in a different light.

It's just flat out rude. But TV time is valuable, so most of them just accept getting cut-off while responding.

Edit - Shannon Bream is at least 49 and definitely went to FSU for grad school. Thanks Wiki. She is even more hot now. Go Noles!

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-20-2021, 01:51 AM

Chris Hahn is a huge piece of shit.

nonniey · 03-21-2021, 03:56 AM

Weekly dish "When The Narrative Replaces The News
How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres"

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-the-news-9ea

Chico23231 · 03-21-2021, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nonniey

Weekly dish "When The Narrative Replaces The News
How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres"

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-the-news-9ea

Andrew Sullivan is a great writer..I read this a couple days as well and he nails it.

It’s very predictable these...the media decides rather whether to push the story based on simply race narrative.

Another terrible story happened this week and the MSM chose to suppress this one based narrative criteria where 2 black teens set a disabled white man on fire which killed him in Rochester ny. The outlets who did report this conveniently left out the race of all individuals. If the races were reverse we would certainly see the hashtags, know the social media histories of both kids, etc.

nonniey · 03-21-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Andrew Sullivan is a great writer..I read this a couple days as well and he nails it.

It’s very predictable these...the media decides rather whether to push the story based on simply race narrative.

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Sullivan points out when the Emperor (ie president, media, senator etc) is wearing no clothes no matter what side of the political spectrum the Emperor happens to be on. He was a major critic of Trump as well (he detested him), yet even against that Jack-ass he'd pointed out when the media was out of line in many of their attacks.

Chico23231 · 03-22-2021, 08:39 PM

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p...t-displacement

Really great stuff here about writers and where it’s headed. Like I told others here...if trump won or loss, I win either way as the media/press/writers collapse and news room go thru massive layoffs.

“ Establishment media’s takeover by this strange brand of academic identity politics might grow even more powerful, if that’s even possible, but dissenters will find a place to sell alternative opinion; there’s a market. What there might not be much of a market for anymore is, well, you - college educated, urban, upwardly striving if not economically improving, woke, ironic, and selling that wokeness and that irony as your only product. Because you flooded the market. Everyone in your entire industry is selling the exact same thing, tired sarcastic jokes and bleating righteousness about injustices they don’t suffer under themselves, and it’s not good in basic economic terms if you’re selling the same thing as everyone else.”

Preach...

Giantone · 03-23-2021, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p...t-displacement

Preach...

The sadness of chico's delusions carries on.

nonniey · 03-23-2021, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

The sadness of chico's delusions carries on.

I haven't been reading/posting here often enough to know the positions of regular posters yet. But I don't think it is a delusion to see how the media has become twisted and corrupted over past the 2-3 decades. Looking at last weeks media reporting on the Atlanta shootings it is hard to dispute Sullivan's conclusions that he laid out in the article I posted above. They are twisting/ have twisted the population into supporting collective guilt.

Chico23231 · 03-23-2021, 02:02 PM

Social media influence is undeniable in forwarding this collapse of viable, honest news media.

Last week CNN wrote this about the Atlanta shootings as a headline article, front page

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/polit...ans/index.html

First sentence of the article:

it's immaterial whether the accused killer in the Atlanta spa shootings admits to a racist motivation. Asian Americans, already traumatized by a rising tide of hate, violence and rhetoric, have been living in fear for months

They are openingly saying “the facts don’t matter” here is the narrative you must believe.

This was written as the facts started to unravel in a USA Today article which interviewed people in his group home stating the guy had a sex addiction so terrible he was in group home therapy. They couldn’t find anyone to say he was a racist...social media post aside from a single China Virus” post didn’t give us insight to a character other than he was deeply religious.

If we actually look at crime stats acts of violence against Asians...and just other recent events...the white supremacy argument folds quickly.

It’s what’s exactly is happening today with the Boulder shooting...yesterday the narrative was “another white guy mass shooting”...today it “we need gun control”

What changed? We found out the shooters name. Bigoted statements on social media are being erased included those from meena Harris and daily show about evil whitey.

Giantone · 03-23-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Social media influence is undeniable in forwarding this collapse of viable, honest news media.

Last week CNN wrote this about the Atlanta shootings as a headline article, front page

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/polit...ans/index.html

First sentence of the article:

it's immaterial whether the accused killer in the Atlanta spa shootings admits to a racist motivation. Asian Americans, already traumatized by a rising tide of hate, violence and rhetoric, have been living in fear for months

They are openingly saying “the facts don’t matter” here is the narrative you must believe.

This was written as the facts started to unravel in a USA Today article which interviewed people in his group home stating the guy had a sex addiction so terrible he was in group home therapy. They couldn’t find anyone to say he was a racist...social media post aside from a single China Virus” post didn’t give us insight to a character other than he was deeply religious.

If we actually look at crime stats acts of violence against Asians...and just other recent events...the white supremacy argument folds quickly.

It’s what’s exactly is happening today with the Boulder shooting...yesterday the narrative was “another white guy mass shooting”...today it “we need gun control”

What changed? We found out the shooters name. Bigoted statements on social media are being erased included those from meena Harris and daily show about evil whitey.

SunnySide · 03-31-2021, 11:10 AM

Fox News is burying the sexual misconduct scandals re republicans Gaetz and Cawthorn.

I personally dont care at all that left leaning media leans left and right leaning media leans right.

I do think its odd that people get all up in arms and wave their "media is the enemy" flag though when this happens.

03-18-2021, 03:08 PM	#1111
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,001	Re: Media Bias Yeah when NBC news, cnn, John Acosta saying it early...it was fine. Trump says it, bad. That’s really what it was about Kinda like currently: kids housed in cages are fine now...Biden administration secretly working with Mexico to stop illegals coming in per NYT (another Trump policy), that’s fine too. People who are easily offended are easily manipulated. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-20-2021, 01:15 AM	#1115
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,479	Re: Media Bias I watch Fox News pretty regularly (I'd say about 2 times a week for Tucker and Shannon Bream), but I'd assume it's probably similar across CNN, etc. This is more of a grind the gears comment, but don't want to drag politics in there. But I absolutely hate when shows have guests, and when they are giving a response you want to hear all of, the host cuts them off to go to commercials. I get that commercials pay the bills, but either plan for less guests, or plan for the host talking less. Don't cut-off responses people want to hear. More often than not, the guests actually share things you didn't know or speak about issues you are aware of in a different light. It's just flat out rude. But TV time is valuable, so most of them just accept getting cut-off while responding. Edit - Shannon Bream is at least 49 and definitely went to FSU for grad school. Thanks Wiki. She is even more hot now. Go Noles! __________________ Turkish: What's happening with them sausages, Charlie? Sausage Charlie: Five minutes, Turkish. Turkish: It was two minutes five minutes ago. Last edited by sdskinsfan2001; 03-20-2021 at 02:35 AM.

03-20-2021, 01:51 AM	#1116
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 41 Posts: 19,479	Re: Media Bias Chris Hahn is a huge piece of shit. __________________ Turkish: What's happening with them sausages, Charlie? Sausage Charlie: Five minutes, Turkish. Turkish: It was two minutes five minutes ago.

03-21-2021, 03:56 AM	#1117
nonniey The Starter Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: AZ Posts: 1,531	Re: Media Bias Weekly dish "When The Narrative Replaces The News How the media grotesquely distorted the Atlanta massacres" https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-the-news-9ea

03-22-2021, 08:39 PM	#1120
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,001	Re: Media Bias https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p...t-displacement Really great stuff here about writers and where it’s headed. Like I told others here...if trump won or loss, I win either way as the media/press/writers collapse and news room go thru massive layoffs. “ Establishment media’s takeover by this strange brand of academic identity politics might grow even more powerful, if that’s even possible, but dissenters will find a place to sell alternative opinion; there’s a market. What there might not be much of a market for anymore is, well, you - college educated, urban, upwardly striving if not economically improving, woke, ironic, and selling that wokeness and that irony as your only product. Because you flooded the market. Everyone in your entire industry is selling the exact same thing, tired sarcastic jokes and bleating righteousness about injustices they don’t suffer under themselves, and it’s not good in basic economic terms if you’re selling the same thing as everyone else.” Preach... __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-23-2021, 02:02 PM	#1123
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,001	Re: Media Bias Social media influence is undeniable in forwarding this collapse of viable, honest news media. Last week CNN wrote this about the Atlanta shootings as a headline article, front page https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/polit...ans/index.html First sentence of the article: it's immaterial whether the accused killer in the Atlanta spa shootings admits to a racist motivation. Asian Americans, already traumatized by a rising tide of hate, violence and rhetoric, have been living in fear for months They are openingly saying “the facts don’t matter” here is the narrative you must believe. This was written as the facts started to unravel in a USA Today article which interviewed people in his group home stating the guy had a sex addiction so terrible he was in group home therapy. They couldn’t find anyone to say he was a racist...social media post aside from a single China Virus” post didn’t give us insight to a character other than he was deeply religious. If we actually look at crime stats acts of violence against Asians...and just other recent events...the white supremacy argument folds quickly. It’s what’s exactly is happening today with the Boulder shooting...yesterday the narrative was “another white guy mass shooting”...today it “we need gun control” What changed? We found out the shooters name. Bigoted statements on social media are being erased included those from meena Harris and daily show about evil whitey. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

03-31-2021, 11:10 AM	#1125
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Media Bias Fox News is burying the sexual misconduct scandals re republicans Gaetz and Cawthorn. I personally dont care at all that left leaning media leans left and right leaning media leans right. I do think its odd that people get all up in arms and wave their "media is the enemy" flag though when this happens.

Media Bias

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