Wild Card Weekend

[rocnrik]

So far the playoffs are telling us that Head coach and organizations are so very important.. maybe as important than the Big name QB .. Miami and Baltimore both played well against better QB .. San Fran has a rookie .. Daniel Jones is not a Great QB .. however They all are well coached and great Schemes.. under the Right coach and scheme we are a few players away .. OL needs upgrading for sure and a TE that can dominate .. Under the right coach we don’t have to have Mahomes to win ..

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

So far the playoffs are telling us that Head coach and organizations are so very important.. maybe as important than the Big name QB .. Miami and Baltimore both played well against better QB .. San Fran has a rookie .. Daniel Jones is not a Great QB .. however They all are well coached and great Schemes.. under the Right coach and scheme we are a few players away .. OL needs upgrading for sure and a TE that can dominate .. Under the right coach we don’t have to have Mahomes to win ..

As I pointed out earlier with the exception of Brady (exception to everything QB related!), they're all home grown. Find your guy and once you've found him, groom him and keep him. Coaching is a massive part of that. OC/HC knowing what they can trust their QB to do and not do is key. Look at how Jones and Lawrence have improved this year with better coaching, and their coaches showing trust in them.

[SunnySide]

Great Sunday to watch football. Cooked all day, watched football all day.

Glad the games stayed competitive.

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Cousins checkdown on last play was vintage "process oriented" Kirk.

All routes covered = checkdown .. thats the binary computer rule.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Great Sunday to watch football. Cooked all day, watched football all day.

Glad the games stayed competitive.

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Cousins checkdown on last play was vintage "process oriented" Kirk.

All routes covered = checkdown .. thats the binary computer rule.

O'Connell has shared some blame in that and rightly so. 4th and 8 you need your receivers all moving, all play and around or beyond the 1st down. Short yardage, yeah you can have a guy go out in the flat and beat his man on a quick play, but being pretty much stationary 2 yards downfield your guy is unlikely to reach the marker. Cousins may well have been looking for a sure fire completion over chancing his man going and getting the ball (which is probably why Jefferson had a quiet half), so yeah he should have taken a chance. But having your outlet receiver in a position where he'd have to make an awesome play to get the 1st down isn't smart either.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

O'Connell has shared some blame in that and rightly so. 4th and 8 you need your receivers all moving, all play and around or beyond the 1st down. Short yardage, yeah you can have a guy go out in the flat and beat his man on a quick play, but being pretty much stationary 2 yards downfield your guy is unlikely to reach the marker. Cousins may well have been looking for a sure fire completion over chancing his man going and getting the ball (which is probably why Jefferson had a quiet half), so yeah he should have taken a chance. But having your outlet receiver in a position where he'd have to make an awesome play to get the 1st down isn't smart either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA0lF0bKtlU



idk man

Video of the play ... I didnt listen to this guys commentary

4 wide ... 3 receivers go beyond the sticks, Cousins with some incoming pressure but nothing hot hot .. makes a quick decision to check it down to the outlet guy

Outlet guys imo are check down if-all-else-fails options .. and thats on normal plays, not your season on the line and you need 8 yards plays.

Computers cant appreciate context .. Kirk is a computer.

[htownskinfan]

Very competitive games,with Miami being able to keep it that close was the most surprising to me,the Vikings being the least surprising.
I didnt watch 2nd half of Bengals,that was a lot closer than expected also.On that fumble return for td,there was a clear push in the back on Andrews that sent him tumbling that wasnt called,I dont know if it was mentioned during the game or not,sportscenter didnt say shit about it on the replays

[NC_Skins]

LOL. This article.

Kirk Cousins is never going to win anything because he’s a Costco hotdog

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/1/...s-playoffs-nfl

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

LOL. This article.

Kirk Cousins is never going to win anything because he’s a Costco hotdog

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/1/...s-playoffs-nfl

That article is hilarious and right on point,that's why I never fretted about losing him,too much money for what he is

[punch it in]

Hysterical the hate for Cousins. Dude was 31 of 39 for 280 yards. 2 td’s and 0 of int’s and took zero sacks. Him and the TE were the only ones who showed up. The D couldn’t stop a thing. Not one thing. But yeah its Kirks fault because of one poorly designed play. Was he supposed to throw it away or get it to anyone with pressure in his face?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Hysterical the hate for Cousins. Dude was 31 of 39 for 280 yards. 2 td’s and 0 of int’s and took zero sacks. Him and the TE were the only ones who showed up. The D couldn’t stop a thing. Not one thing. But yeah its Kirks fault. Lol

JJ got no looks in the 4th quarter, no one else to blame.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

JJ got no looks in the 4th quarter, no one else to blame.

Was JJ open in the 4th quarter or are we just looking for some vague stat to blame Cousins. Hockenson was a man possessed and he got plenty of looks.

2-1/2 drives in the fourth. One resulted in a fg. So on 14 plays Jefferson didn’t get a look and that is all on Cousins? Not on JJ? The oline? The OC? Come on. Cousins played more than good enough to win. Defense and Coaching staff did not.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Was JJ open in the 4th quarter or are we just looking for some vague stat to blame Cousins. Hockenson was a man possessed and he got plenty of looks.

So you only throw to him when he is open? You throw and see if he can make a play! It's the playoffs.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So you only throw to him when he is open? You throw and see if he can make a play! It's the playoffs.

You are talking about 9 plays G - 1. 9 plays. They kicked a FG to tie it early in the fourth. You are blaming Cousins because JJ didn’t get a look during 9 plays? Come on.

The Vikings defense had as poor a showing against the Giants as any team did all year and you are blaming Cousins for not chucking 50/50 balls in a tie game to JJ?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Hysterical the hate for Cousins. Dude was 31 of 39 for 280 yards. 2 td’s and 0 of int’s and took zero sacks. Him and the TE were the only ones who showed up. The D couldn’t stop a thing. Not one thing. But yeah its Kirks fault. Lol

He's a top tier QB and he's always going to take the heat; all QBs take the heat. There have been plenty of QBs throughout the years who carry their teams through bad defenses (Mahommes, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc., etc.). If he wants to be in that tier, he'll be expected to win games like this.

Whether it is fair or not, Kirk is going to always draw a lot of criticism because he's always demanding and getting fully guaranteed contracts, he always has had a loaded team offensively in Minnesota, and the narrative around the Vikings when he was brought is that they were a good QB away from the SB.

Lastly, regardless of what happened in that game, everyone is going to remember 4th and 8, and he only able to manage throwing a 3 yard pass.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

He's a top tier QB and he's always going to take the heat; all QBs take the heat. There have been plenty of QBs throughout the years who carry their teams through bad defenses (Mahommes, Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc., etc.). If he wants to be in that tier, he'll be expected to win games like this.

Whether it is fair or not, Kirk is going to always draw a lot of criticism because he's always demanding and getting fully guaranteed contracts, he always has had a loaded team offensively in Minnesota, and the narrative around the Vikings when he was brought is that they were a good QB away from the SB.

Lastly, regardless of what happened in that game, everyone is going to remember 4th and 8, and he only able to manage throwing a 3 yard pass.

Brady had a bad defense? All of Those teams Defenses showed up when they had to. And they all had great staffs too. It just isn’t that simple.

Giants didn’t score 31 points all year except one time against the Colts. The D for Minnesota is 100 percent to blame for making the Giants look like the greatest show on turf.