Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

Schneed10 · 01-09-2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

I would prefer to keep Thomas one more year, his contract is not significant so it won't limit our ability to sign FA players.

I think I'm with you on keeping Thomas, but just wanted to say that you and I aren't looking at the same contract. His cap number in 2023 is $8.8M. We'd save $5.3M if we parted ways.

I'd still keep him - I think he'll be useful again as he gets healthier. He was particularly terrible as a blocker this year but I think that gets better as he gets his legs under him.

AnonEmouse · 01-05-2023, 03:06 AM

We won't know our priority needs until Monday. If Howell comes out firing, starting QB could be his to lose which changes the current picture. If he stinks to high heaven then OL and QB are to of the list. Question is where do we fill those holes from. For me, we might be able to fill 3-4 positional needs from FA, particularly OL. If Howell is the guy then we need a vet QB as backup (presuming TH is gone), and ideally that's an FA not a trade. That then frees us up to use the draft to get BPA across the board.

So I'd target LB, OL (2-3) and TE from FA, then OL, CB, and LB in the draft, with probably another QB and RB thrown in. If we draft another WR in the early rounds someone wants shooting.

I'm presuming we re-sign Payne or he gets tagged. If neither, that's another headache to solve.

Chief X_Phackter · 01-05-2023, 08:55 AM

It's likely that this team will once again NOT be a destination of choice, even more so with the current ownership situation. Just can't see all that being ironed out in time for all the offseason deadlines with free agency, etc. We'll see...

I would like them to try to bring back DT Da'Ron Payne, S/ST Jeremy Reaves, LB Cole Holcomb, C Tyler Larsen, G Wes Schweitzer. Everyone else can find another home.

I would like them to try to sign a Veteran QB, LB, CB, T, and G in free agency.

Here's my short list: Jacoby Brissett, Roquan Smith, James Bradberry, Orlando Brown Jr, and Roger Saffold

Draft: QB, G, T, C, DL/E, S, CB, LB - not necessarily in that order.

I don't see a need for a TE or a WR at this point. Could always add a RB, TE or WR, but neither of those positions feel like even close to a priority with all the other holes and depth needed.

nonniey · 01-05-2023, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

It's likely that this team will once again NOT be a destination of choice, even more so with the current ownership situation. Just can't see all that being ironed out in time for all the offseason deadlines with free agency, etc. We'll see...

I would like them to try to bring back DT Da'Ron Payne, S/ST Jeremy Reaves, LB Cole Holcomb, C Tyler Larsen, G Wes Schweitzer. Everyone else can find another home.

I would like them to try to sign a Veteran QB, LB, CB, T, and G in free agency.

Here's my short list: Jacoby Brissett, Roquan Smith, James Bradberry, Orlando Brown Jr, and Roger Saffold

Draft: QB, G, T, C, DL/E, S, CB, LB - not necessarily in that order.

I don't see a need for a TE or a WR at this point. Could always add a RB, TE or WR, but neither of those positions feel like even close to a priority with all the other holes and depth needed.

Unless the sale can be finalized before the new season begins, I just don't see the team signing or resigning anyone, and I mean anyone at all, during the main portion of free agency.

EdmundDorf · 01-07-2023, 02:56 PM

Dan Steinberg on Twitter

“Nine other Commanders, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a coach, expressed frustration with the play-calling” is a big time zoinks. (Via ⁦@Sam4TR⁩)

EdmundDorf · 01-07-2023, 02:57 PM

... from a Washington Post story, it is behind a pay wall though

Chico23231 · 01-09-2023, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Dan Steinberg on Twitter

“Nine other Commanders, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a coach, expressed frustration with the play-calling” is a big time zoinks. (Via ⁦@Sam4TR⁩)

Turner hire was another Ron poor decision

AnonEmouse · 01-05-2023, 03:45 PM

I wouldn't draft a TE as it stands but I'd still see what we can do in FA. I'm not convinced we have a dependable receiving TE on the roster already. I like Thomas when he's 100% but I'm wondering if he's going to be 100% again.

SFREDSKIN · 01-05-2023, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I wouldn't draft a TE as it stands but I'd still see what we can do in FA. I'm not convinced we have a dependable receiving TE on the roster already. I like Thomas when he's 100% but I'm wondering if he's going to be 100% again.

Armani Rogers is going to surprise many, he's an athlete and is fast, really like him a lot.

GridIron26 · 01-07-2023, 03:25 PM

I think it will be tough for Rivera to find a new OC because almost everyone knows Rivera will be on a hot seat next year.

EdmundDorf · 01-07-2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it will be tough for Rivera to find a new OC because almost everyone knows Rivera will be on a hot seat next year.

Yes, but they could promote Zampese the QB coach or there may well be a young coach out there that would like a chance of year to show what he can do..

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-08-2023, 10:19 PM

Snyder selling the team is No. 1. But I don't trust that asswhipe to do it. If that's not an option, and if Snyder stays, I'm assuming Rivera does too. Give me this:

1. Replace Turner.
2. Fix the OL thru FA and/or the draft.
3. Keep Payne.
4. Let Howell start the off-season as QB 1.
5. Draft a mid-round QB to compete with Howell, but most likely be a cheap back-up

SFREDSKIN · 01-08-2023, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Yes, but they could promote Zampese the QB coach or there may well be a young coach out there that would like a chance of year to show what he can do..

Zampese who said Wentz was our best option last week and would look different because of Brob and a C? He’s as clueless as Turner.

Ruhskins · 01-08-2023, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it will be tough for Rivera to find a new OC because almost everyone knows Rivera will be on a hot seat next year.

Any assistant is going to want the opportunity to showcase as an OC, I don't think that'd be an issue.

sdskinsfan2001 · 01-09-2023, 08:34 AM

List of FA QBs for 2023

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...trending-pages

Snag 1 of these guys and get a mid-round QB. Let all 3 compete to start.

I'm confident that Howell would win that competition and then we would still have depth and another developmental guy.

View Poll Results: How would you address the QB1 situation for 2023?
Swing big in a trade for a veteran	2	3.77%
Trade up in the draft for a top prospect	4	7.55%
See who hits free agency	7	13.21%
Sit tight with Howell	35	66.04%
Other	5	9.43%
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01-05-2023, 03:06 AM	#2
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,650	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread We won't know our priority needs until Monday. If Howell comes out firing, starting QB could be his to lose which changes the current picture. If he stinks to high heaven then OL and QB are to of the list. Question is where do we fill those holes from. For me, we might be able to fill 3-4 positional needs from FA, particularly OL. If Howell is the guy then we need a vet QB as backup (presuming TH is gone), and ideally that's an FA not a trade. That then frees us up to use the draft to get BPA across the board. So I'd target LB, OL (2-3) and TE from FA, then OL, CB, and LB in the draft, with probably another QB and RB thrown in. If we draft another WR in the early rounds someone wants shooting. I'm presuming we re-sign Payne or he gets tagged. If neither, that's another headache to solve.

01-05-2023, 08:55 AM	#3
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,644	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread It's likely that this team will once again NOT be a destination of choice, even more so with the current ownership situation. Just can't see all that being ironed out in time for all the offseason deadlines with free agency, etc. We'll see... I would like them to try to bring back DT Da'Ron Payne, S/ST Jeremy Reaves, LB Cole Holcomb, C Tyler Larsen, G Wes Schweitzer. Everyone else can find another home. I would like them to try to sign a Veteran QB, LB, CB, T, and G in free agency. Here's my short list: Jacoby Brissett, Roquan Smith, James Bradberry, Orlando Brown Jr, and Roger Saffold Draft: QB, G, T, C, DL/E, S, CB, LB - not necessarily in that order. I don't see a need for a TE or a WR at this point. Could always add a RB, TE or WR, but neither of those positions feel like even close to a priority with all the other holes and depth needed.

01-07-2023, 02:56 PM	#5
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread Dan Steinberg on Twitter “Nine other Commanders, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid about a coach, expressed frustration with the play-calling” is a big time zoinks. (Via ⁦@Sam4TR⁩)

01-07-2023, 02:57 PM	#6
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread ... from a Washington Post story, it is behind a pay wall though

01-05-2023, 03:45 PM	#8
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,650	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread I wouldn't draft a TE as it stands but I'd still see what we can do in FA. I'm not convinced we have a dependable receiving TE on the roster already. I like Thomas when he's 100% but I'm wondering if he's going to be 100% again.

01-07-2023, 03:25 PM	#10
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,596	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread I think it will be tough for Rivera to find a new OC because almost everyone knows Rivera will be on a hot seat next year.

01-08-2023, 10:19 PM	#12
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,615	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread Snyder selling the team is No. 1. But I don't trust that asswhipe to do it. If that's not an option, and if Snyder stays, I'm assuming Rivera does too. Give me this: 1. Replace Turner. 2. Fix the OL thru FA and/or the draft. 3. Keep Payne. 4. Let Howell start the off-season as QB 1. 5. Draft a mid-round QB to compete with Howell, but most likely be a cheap back-up __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

01-09-2023, 08:34 AM	#15
sdskinsfan2001 Living Legend Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hanahan, South Carolina Age: 42 Posts: 20,615	Re: Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread List of FA QBs for 2023 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...trending-pages Snag 1 of these guys and get a mid-round QB. Let all 3 compete to start. I'm confident that Howell would win that competition and then we would still have depth and another developmental guy. __________________ "You can be my wingman anytime." "Bulls**t. You can be mine."

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