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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I caught the end of who I believe was Dianna Russini interview with the Junkies this morning driving into work. Her contacts in the organization said the draft war room was looking hard at Safeties and Tight Ends prospects but couldn't get either this draft. Interior Oline, Pass Rusher and Wide Receivers were the focus coming into the draft and not necessarily QB.

She said the Haskins pick at 15 caused a lil tension because Sweat was on the board but the move back into the 1st for Sweat killed all tensions and everyone was really thrilled.

Sweat apparently was the choice of mostly everybody, except the most important man in the Organization...Danny.

To be fair, the Redskins just saw what happened to the Giants when they passed up a potential franchise QB in last year's draft. Because of it, they ended up reaching for a QB at #6.

As Andrew Brandt says, Management and Coaches will always have different views when it comes to the draft (future vs. now). And I think the team should be given a lot of credit for being patient and making moves to address the need of both sides.

Also, I find it interested that a lot of the BS that the likes of Junkies were reporting (i.e. trading up, Snyder taking over the draft) probably made Gettleman panic may have contributed to them taking Jones so early. For one, misinformation helped the Redskins in the draft.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

To be fair, the Redskins just saw what happened to the Giants when they passed up a potential franchise QB in last year's draft. Because of it, they ended up reaching for a QB at #6.

As Andrew Brandt says, Management and Coaches will always have different views when it comes to the draft (future vs. now). And I think the team should be given a lot of credit for being patient and making moves to address the need of both sides.

Also, I find it interested that a lot of the BS that the likes of Junkies were reporting (i.e. trading up, Snyder taking over the draft) probably made Gettleman panic may have contributed to them taking Jones so early. For one, misinformation helped the Redskins in the draft.

And give credit where it's due, Bruce is the king of deflection and misinformation. The press never gets a straight answer out of the guy.

[Chico23231]

Im listening to Dianna Russini now on Sheenhan based on folks she talked to in the building: Scouts and folks were told in the building...1. "There were NEVER gonna trade up 2. IF Haskins was there at 15...that's the pick. PERIOD. Dan's call 100% 3. After the draft, the building was really happy with the entire draft.

[Schneed10]

Credit where it's due to Snyder. If it was him driving the Haskins train, he could have forced a trade up to ensure he'd get his guy. But he didn't, he stayed patient. Remarkable that I'm saying that about him, but if we're being intellectually honest, credit where it's due.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Credit where it's due to Snyder. If it was him driving the Haskins train, he could have forced a trade up to ensure he'd get his guy. But he didn't, he stayed patient. Remarkable that I'm saying that about him, but if we're being intellectually honest, credit where it's due.

To be honest, Dan has done a solid job of late. Even with not budging on Kirk's contract

[Kope]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

To be honest, Dan has done a solid job of late. Even with not budging on Kirk's contract

Agree. I think he started getting better with Gibbs II. No where near good, but improving. Since Jay sat Robert I think the organization has been pretty good, including Kirk.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Kope

Agree. I think he started getting better with Gibbs II. No where near good, but improving. Since Jay sat Robert I think the organization has been pretty good, including Kirk.

Good call. I hated it at the moment but it seems to have a been a turning point.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Kope

Agree. I think he started getting better with Gibbs II. No where near good, but improving. Since Jay sat Robert I think the organization has been pretty good, including Kirk.

Dan Snyder has given Gruden 7 seasons to win, instead of his firing a coach after a season or two. I just wish he would dump Bruce Allen and hire a real GM - then let him do his job.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Dan Snyder has given Gruden 7 seasons to win, instead of his firing a coach after a season or two. I just wish he would dump Bruce Allen and hire a real GM - then let him do his job.

Incorrect. Gruden is going into his 6th season.

[Chico23231]

Diane said this...and this is comforting, Grudan should have the authority to start Keenum over Haskins week 1 and its most likely to happen. Dan will be happy to get "his guy" but Gruden has enough clout to start Keenum as long as he makes the case, Haskins isn't ready. Folks in the building believe Keenum can effectively run Gruden offense over Haskins.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Diane said this...and this is comforting, Grudan should have the authority to start Keenum over Haskins week 1 and its most likely to happen. Dan will be happy to get "his guy" but Gruden has enough clout to start Keenum as long as he makes the case, Haskins isn't ready. Folks in the building believe Keenum can effectively run Gruden offense over Haskins.

Personally I hope that the Redskins don't start Haskins at all...what I mean is that I hope that Haskins is brought along slowly, and not rushed like RG3 was.

While I personally was not a big fan of drafting Haskins, I do admit that he has a lot of talent and I definitely want to see him succeed with the Redskins.

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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Dianna Russini was on Sheehan's podcast today and she stood by her reporting last week. She had atleast two sources in the front office who confirmed the following:

- Regarding Haskins, it was Bruce and Dan vs. everybody - Coaches, scouts, including Kyle Smith.
- Dan wanted Haskins and did take control.
- The staff was frustrated and felt "why are we here providing our advice if he's not going to listen to us?"
- They were resigned to the fact that Snyder was going to take Haskins at 15, so they did not fight it very hard. They knew they were powerless.
- If the football people had had their way, they would have stuck to their board and taken BPA at 15, and it probably would have been a defensive player
- The football people had Daniel Jones as the top QB in the draft.
- Knowing Snyder was determined to take a QB, they did make a push on the day of the draft to convince him and Bruce that Jones would be the better pick, but she is not sure how hard of a push it was, since everyone knew Bruce and Dan would not be budged.

Now on to the good news:
- Bruce and Dan would not have traded up from 15 for Haskins.
- There was a divide in the organization, but its will likely not have any long-term implications. Jay is very well liked and easy going. He does not hold grudges and this will all be forgotten as soon as the media stops talking about it.
- The RG3 disaster still looms over Snyder. Diana does not think he will meddle or push the staff to start Haskins. He will be patient and let the coaches do their jobs.
- Case will almost certainly start.

[Warthog]

For once, I agree with Dan Snyder and the overall decision to draft for a long-term franchise QB over the BPA - Edge rusher Sweat. Gruden is coaching for this year only because he knows he's on the razor's edge. He knows that he will need a strong defense to carry the team and hopefully get him a winning season and an extension to his contract.

The NFL winning teams all have long-term franchise QB. We don't have one and haven't had one for 20 years except for the Kirk Cousins years. But I agree with the team's decision to let cousins go, because he just didn't have that extra factor that makes your team a winner.

I'm not sure about letting Haskins sit out a season. He needs experience badly and that comes from playing. Most of the teams that draft a franchise QB are playing them the first year - even though that means you'll see some ugly rookie mistakes. But then they improve the next season.

[skinsfan69]

Snyder still fails because he needs someone to be his buffer. He's too much of a chicken shit to come out and talk to the media himself. Even with a fan base that's dwindling he just keeps quiet.

However, the minute the media says how well the Redskins did in the draft, here comes Bruce out of his cave sticking his chest out. That shit makes me sick really. What the fuck did Bruce actually do? Hand in the draft cards? Agree with Snyder to draft Haskins? He's such an ass kissing little bitch. I still can't stand that guy.

Smith runs the draft, yet I wouldn't know him if he passed me on the street. I'm sure at some point he's going to leave here because he doesn't want to deal with the nonsense over at Redskin Park.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder still fails because he needs someone to be his buffer. He's too much of a chicken shit to come out and talk to the media himself. Even with a fan base that's dwindling he just keeps quiet.

However, the minute the media says how well the Redskins did in the draft, here comes Bruce out of his cave sticking his chest out. That shit makes me sick really. What the fuck did Bruce actually do? Hand in the draft cards? Agree with Snyder to draft Haskins? He's such an ass kissing little bitch. I still can't stand that guy.

Smith runs the draft, yet I wouldn't know him if he passed me on the street. I'm sure at some point he's going to leave here because he doesn't want to deal with the nonsense over at Redskin Park.

I agree that Snyder likes having Allen around to soak up the heat. It makes sense.

Still, credit where it's due. The draft looks good from here and even though we can debate how much credit Allen deserves, he deserves part of the credit because we all know he's part of the process.