Dwayne Haskins

[MTK]

If stats had any meaning Haskins would have been the slam dunk #1 pick. Unfortunately they don’t, and 14 teams passed on him. Just the reality of it.


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[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

If stats had any meaning Haskins would have been the slam dunk #1 pick. Unfortunately they don’t, and 14 teams passed on him. Just the reality of it.


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How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".

In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".



In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

Cards, Giants, Bengals, Dolphins



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[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cards, Giants, Bengals, Dolphins



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Cards did not need a QB. They traded a couple of draft picks last year to move up for Rosen and he is still under his rookie deal. New coach wanted (did not need) Murray.

Giants...needed QB. They got Jones

Bengals....do not NEED a QB. Dalton is only 31. Never know, however, they might offer a third for Rosen?

Dolphins.....have made no attempt at disguising the fact that they are in full fledged "Tanking for Tua" mode and will go after Tua in next years draft.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Cards did not need a QB. They traded a couple of draft picks last year to move up for Rosen and he is still under his rookie deal. New coach wanted (did not need) Murray.

Giants...needed QB. They got Jones

Bengals....do not NEED a QB. Dalton is only 31. Never know, however, they might offer a third for Rosen?

Dolphins.....have made no attempt at disguising the fact that they are in full fledged "Tanking for Tua" mode and will go after Tua in next years draft.

You're making this way too hard for yourself. All 4 of those teams were potential landing spots for QBs. And needless to say the Cards even took a QB. My point remains if Haskins was some sort of slam dunk prospect he would have went much earlier.

[Giantone]

Some thought on Haskins a while ago............


http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=64337&page=2

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

How many teams picking 1 thru 14 were even looking QB? When the Giants took Jones, my first thought was "There is an outside shot that the Bengals may look at Haskins, but if Cincy does not take him, he is Washington bound".

In truth, you could say the Giants passed on him. But look around the Interwebs today......Giants are getting persecuted for 'the reach' for Jones. Washington getting the praise for a solid first round.

/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=26c1yV-iWVQ

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

/www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=59&v=26c1yV-iWVQ

Was not an indictment of the pick. My point was simply the reaction out there the morning after the first round. Cannot argue that the Giants are defending their pick and Washington is being applauded for theirs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Was not an indictment of the pick. My point was simply the reaction out there the morning after the first round. Cannot argue that the Giants are defending their pick and Washington is being applauded for theirs.

No, the Giants are fine.It's fans that have a problem the Giants don't have to defend a thing.

[metalskins]

I think it was a great pick for #15. Trading up to get Haskins would have imploded this board. With DH dropping to our pick, it would have been dumb to have passed him up. Besides, we were able to get Sweat, so we filled two positions of need in the first without giving the farm away.

I'm excited for Haskins. I just hope Gruden is given the opportunity to bring him along slowly and not throw him out to the wolves too soon.

[Buffalo Bob]

Listening to Colin Cowherd today he likes Haskins and thinks he could be a good NFL QB, then turns around and says he feels sorry for him ending up in DC. What will it take for the Redskins to get some respect back?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Listening to Colin Cowherd today he likes Haskins and thinks he could be a good NFL QB, then turns around and says he feels sorry for him ending up in DC. What will it take for the Redskins to get some respect back?

It is easier to sell dysfunction. Even though there are FOs out there that are screwing up big time (see Cards, Giants), the Redskins are a low hanging fruit.

You win respect by winning though, so you won't see that narrative change until winning happens.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Listening to Colin Cowherd today he likes Haskins and thinks he could be a good NFL QB, then turns around and says he feels sorry for him ending up in DC. What will it take for the Redskins to get some respect back?

Winning games, consistent playoff appearances with some playoff wins

A good 3 year stretch would help a lot


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Listening to Colin Cowherd today he likes Haskins and thinks he could be a good NFL QB, then turns around and says he feels sorry for him ending up in DC. What will it take for the Redskins to get some respect back?

Respect is earned over time. The team has been a constant circus for 20 years. The redskins have worked very hard to build up their reputation of being dysfunctional. The first round of one draft that appears to be good during the moment doesn't - and shouldn't - change that.

And lets not forget - 7 years ago we drafted a first round QB who was going to save the franchise and Snyder ruined it by meddling and empowering him to be a diva. Haskins is a local kid who went to the same school as Snyder's son and Snyder reportedly was the driving force behind our drafting him.

Do you think Snyder is more or less likely to meddle with Haskins than he did with RG3?

If Snyder doesn't stay of the way, this situation could very quickly turn toxic.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Respect is earned over time. The team has been a constant circus for 20 years. The redskins have worked very hard to build up their reputation of being dysfunctional. The first round of one draft that appears to be good during the moment doesn't - and shouldn't - change that.

And lets not forget - 7 years ago we drafted a first round QB who was going to save the franchise and Snyder ruined it by meddling and empowering him to be a diva. Haskins is a local kid who went to the same school as Snyder's son and Snyder reportedly was the driving force behind our drafting him.

Do you think Snyder is more or less likely to meddle with Haskins than he did with RG3?

If Snyder doesn't stay of the way, this situation could very quickly turn toxic.

..........add in the possibility if you get a "new HC next year"?