Around the NFL Week 14

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Most Dallas fans I know

Week 7 after we beat them " man we suck, fire Hand clapper, Dak sucks"

Now " Man we are legit, best team in the NFC!"

In my own defense & as my previous posts confirm....
After week 14 I am STILL saying "Dak sucks!"

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

In my own defense & as my previous posts confirm....
After week 14 I am STILL saying "Dak sucks!"

At least u are honest

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Most Dallas fans I know

Week 7 after we beat them " man we suck, fire Hand clapper, Dak sucks"

Now " Man we are legit, best team in the NFC!"

Well to be fair us skins fans would have been saying the same thing if it was us{or if we didnt we'd be accused of having sand in our vaginas}
Right now Dallas is def best team in the East that's for sure,the whole NFC is debatable

[Meks]

Sandjack-ass, you're again looking at the overall numbers of flags and yards, like last time this topic came up, and not considering, again, the impact of each call and the timing of the call. Some of the calls the cowgirls have gotten over the last 5 weeks have helped them to win. Twice in key games against the Saints 100% and again last night. Act like they wont make sure the numbers look good at the end of the game so narrow minded ppl and nut rider fans like you can tout it as being fair. lol.

Enjoy the bullshit while it lasts cuz your QB is fucking garbage and you'll choke on a dick in the playoffs, again.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Meks

Sandjack-ass, you're again looking at the overall numbers of flags and yards, like last time this topic came up, and not considering, again, the impact of each call and the timing of the call. Some of the calls the cowgirls have gotten over the last 5 weeks have helped them to win. Twice in key games against the Saints 100% and again last night. Act like they wont make sure the numbers look good at the end of the game so narrow minded ppl and nut rider fans like you can tout it as being fair. lol.

Enjoy the bullshit while it lasts cuz your QB is fucking garbage and you'll choke on a dick in the playoffs, again.

Absolutely looking at the overall numbers. Because you cannot sit there and convince anyone that "the refs favor them" when it the fact is the Cowboys had more penalties assessed against them then their opponent. But yet, the officials 'favor them'.

I am not saying the calls were missed, or even bad. At one time or another, every team has calls go with them, or, against them in every game each week. It happens.

But I challenge you to prove to me, that any of these 'calls' you are complaining about had a direct outcome on the game? Did a missed fumble in the first 6 seconds of the game REALLY seal the fate of the Eagles? OR were there like, I don't know.....FOUR quarters left to play to decide that outcome.

You have specific calls in mind, obviously. Show me where they decided or impacted the outcome of the game?

Gauntlet = Tossed

[Meks]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Absolutely looking at the overall numbers. Because you cannot sit there and convince anyone that "the refs favor them" when it the fact is the Cowboys had more penalties assessed against them then their opponent. But yet, the officials 'favor them'.

I am not saying the calls were missed, or even bad. At one time or another, every team has calls go with them, or, against them in every game each week. It happens.

But I challenge you to prove to me, that any of these 'calls' you are complaining about had a direct outcome on the game? Did a missed fumble in the first 6 seconds of the game REALLY seal the fate of the Eagles? OR were there like, I don't know.....FOUR quarters left to play to decide that outcome.

You have specific calls in mind, obviously. Show me where they decided or impacted the outcome of the game?

Gauntlet = Tossed

Lets start with the saints debacle, cuz thats my first real look at bullshit. The catch/non catch calls were ridiculously one sided. Especially when sticking with "the call on the field" .. then that "int" that sealed the game for the cowgirls that obviously hit the friggin ground, that was a direct influence on the outcome of the game. And when I mentioned the past 4 or weeks, it all started for me with our game against Houston. Blatantly robbing the skins at a chance for a game winning field goal, to keep the division closer.. we'd have been 7-3 .. Colt may have came out against Dallas and played much better with more confidence. My point is, as it was before, that the league is influencing certain games and division races the way they want. They know the NFCE is one of if not the biggest $$ making market in the league, and so that is a factor in considering the bullshit. Sure, they called that penalty on Zeke for lowering his head. Good call. They call a few here and there on a first and 10, nothing drive threatening or too damaging to your squad in the moment and on the overall scheme. Of course they want the numbers on their side, but its a VERY calculated way of doing it to give a normal fan and ppl like you this exact argument. Where the hell is my tinfoil hat???

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Meks

Lets start with the saints debacle, cuz thats my first real look at bullshit. The catch/non catch calls were ridiculously one sided. Especially when sticking with "the call on the field" .. then that "int" that sealed the game for the cowgirls that obviously hit the friggin ground, that was a direct influence on the outcome of the game. And when I mentioned the past 4 or weeks, it all started for me with our game against Houston. Blatantly robbing the skins at a chance for a game winning field goal, to keep the division closer.. we'd have been 7-3 .. Colt may have came out against Dallas and played much better with more confidence. My point is, as it was before, that the league is influencing certain games and division races the way they want. They know the NFCE is one of if not the biggest $$ making market in the league, and so that is a factor in considering the bullshit. Sure, they called that penalty on Zeke for lowering his head. Good call. They call a few here and there on a first and 10, nothing drive threatening or too damaging to your squad in the moment and on the overall scheme. Of course they want the numbers on their side, but its a VERY calculated way of doing it to give a normal fan and ppl like you this exact argument. Where the hell is my tinfoil hat???

This all the way. The league didn't want the boring Redskins winning the east. I'm sorry say what u will but money talks. That's y they apologized both times they fucked us. Also like u said, when has Dallas had a game defying call go against them?? O yeah they haven't. I've watched every team at some point this season and nobody gets the right calls at the right time more than Dallas.

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[Meks]

As for last night? Look no further than that absolute JOKE of a ruling on the friggin opening kickoff, man. No clear recovery? Lolllllll riiiigghhhhtttt just 5 eagles players one of which emerges with the fucking ball. It's laughable man and your blue tinted glasses fog more than your vision, it's your judgement of fair competition as well.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Meks

As for last night? Look no further than that absolute JOKE of a ruling on the friggin opening kickoff, man. No clear recovery? Lolllllll riiiigghhhhtttt just 5 eagles players one of which emerges with the fucking ball. It's laughable man and your blue tinted glasses fog more than your vision, it's your judgement of fair competition as well.

Aikman of course didn't say shit

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[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Meks

As for last night? Look no further than that absolute JOKE of a ruling on the friggin opening kickoff, man. No clear recovery? Lolllllll riiiigghhhhtttt just 5 eagles players one of which emerges with the fucking ball. It's laughable man and your blue tinted glasses fog more than your vision, it's your judgement of fair competition as well.

Wow. Really!?!?!
You are saying the first 6 seconds of the game decided the outcome? What about the remaining 59 minutes and 54 seconds? That missed call is what decided the game right then and there?

If you are so convinced that the league is 'rigged against' the Redskins, why do you even watch? It is obviously rigged by your account. Redskins will never 'be allowed' to compete for a championship? Right?

So why watch? Why engage on this forum? Why not just stick to Madden where the obvious conspiracy against the Redskins cannot reach?

Did you watch Vikes@Seahawks last night? What about that obvious no call on Wagners blocked field goal? Clearly there is a conspiracy for such an obvious no call. Right?

All you have brought forward is conjecture. Still no proof.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Wow. Really!?!?!
You are saying the first 6 seconds of the game decided the outcome? What about the remaining 59 minutes and 54 seconds? That missed call is what decided the game right then and there?

If you are so convinced that the league is 'rigged against' the Redskins, why do you even watch? It is obviously rigged by your account. Redskins will never 'be allowed' to compete for a championship? Right?

So why watch? Why engage on this forum? Why not just stick to Madden where the obvious conspiracy against the Redskins cannot reach?

Did you watch Vikes@Seahawks last night? What about that obvious no call on Wagners blocked field goal? Clearly there is a conspiracy for such an obvious no call. Right?

All you have brought forward is conjecture. Still no proof.

While I prefer you just go away, I think the point isn't that it's rigged against the Redskins, as much as the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings. I think the centralized review and call procedures have added to that appearance, and any time one team starts getting clear non-calls/favorable calls the questions are going to be asked.

Like has been pointed out, starting with the Boys win over the Skins there have been several non-called egregious helmet to helmet hits, and the "no clear recovery" ruling was a joke.

A similar one in the Seattle game is as you mentioned the picked up flag against Seattle for jumping over the line. Basically the point being if you want to know who the NFL wants in the playoffs from a ratings perspective, look at how the egregious calls have gone, and I am betting you will see a trend.

-written with tinfoil hat on.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

While I prefer you just go away, I think the point isn't that it's rigged against the Redskins, as much as the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings. I think the centralized review and call procedures have added to that appearance, and any time one team starts getting clear non-calls/favorable calls the questions are going to be asked.

Like has been pointed out, starting with the Boys win over the Skins there have been several non-called egregious helmet to helmet hits, and the "no clear recovery" ruling was a joke.

A similar one in the Seattle game is as you mentioned the picked up flag against Seattle for jumping over the line. Basically the point being if you want to know who the NFL wants in the playoffs from a ratings perspective, look at how the egregious calls have gone, and I am betting you will see a trend.

-written with tinfoil hat on.

Did the NFL want a Colt Mccoy led Redskins team with no "Star" appeal at all on offense and barely any on defense in the playoffs??? Yeah right lol, don't tell me ratings don't influence calls. Dallas is a MEDIA DARLING and also "Americas Team" They get better calls than anyone, its clear as day and only Cowboys fans will say otherwise.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Did the NFL want a Colt Mccoy led Redskins team with no "Star" appeal at all on offense and barely any on defense in the playoffs??? Yeah right lol, don't tell me ratings don't influence calls. Dallas is a MEDIA DARLING and also "Americas Team" They get better calls than anyone, its clear as day and only Cowboys fans will say otherwise.

-still with tinfoil hat.

So the NFL has pretty much set the NFC line up now. 1-5 are likely set, and I believe you will see calls even out so that the nfl can make the claim that every team had egregious calls. Might see the Eagles get some calls their way to get them in at the 6th seed, good for business to have the SB champs in.

And the only real drama in the AFC looks like the Ravens/Steelers and the NFL has had it's share of questionable calls to keep that division close.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

the NFL is possibly influencing outcomes so that divisions, and hence and of season ratings, are more competitive. And specifically for Dallas, the NFL always prefers that they are a competitive team because you have a sway on ratings.

Think. Really think about what is said here. Do you understand or grasp the depth or complexity of what you are saying? Is there like a secret underground meeting in the off-season that the NFL evaluates fan revenue, TV ratings and attendance and then tells all officials which teams to 'look the other way' on? Because that sounds precisely what you are saying.

Do you comprehend the sheer number of people that would have to be involved to bring any validity to this speculation? Not one 'leaked email'. Not one TMZ exclusive?

Theres a handful here that speculate that the officials 'favor' Dallas. But in each game you guys mention as an example, Dallas is assessed MORE penalties and penalty yards in each of those games. That does make since and only add to contradict your claims.

Again I ask the question. If the winners are 'predetermined by the league in advance of the game'. Why do you watch?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Think. Really think about what is said here. Do you understand or grasp the depth or complexity of what you are saying? Is there like a secret underground meeting in the off-season that the NFL evaluates fan revenue, TV ratings and attendance and then tells all officials which teams to 'look the other way' on? Because that sounds precisely what you are saying.

Do you comprehend the sheer number of people that would have to be involved to bring any validity to this speculation? Not one 'leaked email'. Not one TMZ exclusive?

Theres a handful here that speculate that the officials 'favor' Dallas. But in each game you guys mention as an example, Dallas is assessed MORE penalties and penalty yards in each of those games. That does make since and only add to contradict your claims.

Again I ask the question. If the winners are 'predetermined by the league in advance of the game'. Why do you watch?

It's really not as complex as you are saying, because it's not predetermined per se but having a few well timed calls/no calls. And since the people in the booth in new york are now centralized the possibility is more realistic.

That said, I noted all these things with my tinfoil hat on, because it's not really likely but at this time of year with a season in shambles and a cowboys fan coming on here spewing cowboys propaganda, its as good a yarn as any.