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View Poll Results: Assuming Williams goes #1, what are you doing at #2 | |||
Daniels |
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27 | 52.94% |
Maye |
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11 | 21.57% |
Trade down |
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10 | 19.61% |
Non QB pick |
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3 | 5.88% |
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
scenario:
trade with cardinals: we get Murray #4 overall this year cardinals 2nd conditional 2025 2nd {on Murray playing time) cards get #2 overall Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk |
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
No, just no. Murray is not a franchise QB, has issues and would not be good value. If they are going to get a new QB they have to roll the dice on the draft. Bringing in a re-tread would be a Rivera type move.
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
Can I ask a question of the more knowledgeable fans here - What are the causes that make picking a quarterback so much more of a crap shoot then most other positions. I mean I get that in there are some intangibles that you can't tell, but all these quarterbacks that go in the top 10 that are busts or at least not superstars Have been playing this game their whole life from the time they were eight or nine 10 through college there's lots of film there's lots of ways to investigate it . Why is it so hard to find the good one ?
Or what is it about the NFL that makes being a good one so much harder than college etc. Sent from my SM-G781U using Tapatalk |
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
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Football is the ultimate team sport, there are so many factors in order to make your QB look good Imagine Bryce Young in SF
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
Yeah, I agree with mredskins. Look at Lawrence in Jags - he didn't play well in his first year with Meyers, and he improved a lot when Pederson became the head coach.
Even Shanahan likes Darnold enough to get rid his 1st round prize Lance, despite the fact that Darnold wasn't good with Jets and Panthers. |
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
Coaching is a lot of it, but also college level schemes and competition can make QB's look better than they are. At the NFL level they have to be able to read D's comprehensively and go beyond single read or option schemes. Just look at that video of Stroud breaking down his pre-snap reads and you realise how much football smarts the kid has. It's teh same reason the like of Brady, Cousins and Purdy belied their draft position. Their physical attributes are just one half of the puzzle. Their brain is the other. And bad coaching can mess up the latter just as easily as physical injury can mess up the former.
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
Not to mention they are going against the most elite of the elite. There are many very good and elite players in College, but the NFL is nothing but that.
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
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Even throwing college O.C.'s under the bus. But he isn't wrong, everyone runs the same offense nowadays. It's boring unless it's your team.
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
I'm only drafting J.D. at 2 for the rest of my mock drafts. I want to will that into fruition.
2. Jayden Daniels QB LSU 36. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 40. Darius Robinson EDGE Missouri 67. Max Melton CB Rutgers 101. Payton Wilson LB NC State 103. Brandon Coleman OG TCU 138. Beaux Limmer OC Arkansas 181. Erick All TE Iowa 220. Nathan Thomas OT Louisiana
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
I will admit to a bias. These super mobile QBs have been around since Randall Cunningham, over the last decade we've seen a ton of them and some on good teams. But only one (Hurts) even made it to the Super Bowl.
As I watched the first quarter of the Ravens/Chiefs I told myself I have to get with the times and accept this type of QB as the future. An 8 yard run on 3rd and 6 is just as good as an 8 yard pass into tight coverage. But then I see Lamar crap the bed in the playoffs. Again. And I'm right back where I've always been, preferring a pocket QB |
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
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Tarkington Staubach Young Elway , all were at their time considerd running / moble QB's then there was a newer version........... Kaepernick Newton maybe even. R. Wilson
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread
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So we are still left with Wilson as the only super mobile QB who has won a title. Last edited by Darrell Green Fan; 02-26-2024 at 08:00 AM. |
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