Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[CRedskinsRule]

LaCanfora has not been a great source for Skins news, but maybe the bad blood has cleared some. That sounds like a rational post

[MTK]

If Rodgers deal was up he would get at least $30M per year. It's all about timing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

If Rodgers deal was up he would get at least $30M per year. It's all about timing.

I agree with that, and KC deserves a good contract, my point was mainly about the FO and if KC chooses not to accept something that gives him more than 20M/apy then that is his choice not necessarily proof of a FO mess up.

[Irrefutable]

Keim was on the radio about an hour ago. I think he said Kyle and KC have the same agent..... if true, it is a game of chicken, do the Redskins settle for a 2nd/3rd round pick, or play hard ball and try to get a first round pick plus ? SF could hope KC would be a true free agent in 2018....Washington should threaten to franchise KC again if SF low balls them.

Washington cannot let KC go and get nothing

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Keim was on the radio about an hour ago. I think he said Kyle and KC have the same agent..... if true, it is a game of chicken, do the Redskins settle for a 2nd/3rd round pick, or play hard ball and try to get a first round pick plus ? SF could hope KC would be a true free agent in 2018....Washington should threaten to franchise KC again if SF low balls them.

Washington cannot let KC go and get nothing

The Redskins have all of the power. I do not understand why we are worried. He is not going to SF this year or next year, without receiving 2 first round picks and a second. Anybody that says different is foolish.

1. He signs the tag and makes 24 million. If he doesn't sign it, he doesn't get paid.
2. He signs a long term deal by July 15th or he doesn't. If he doesn't he doesn't play and sits on the practice squad like the last QB to leave town. This basically ruins his market value next year.
3. We have a veteran QB that can win 4 - 8 games and is willing to be a bridge QB.
4. If the agent tries to play both sides, they let him know we can tag Kirk next year as well.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

The Redskins have all of the power. I do not understand why we are worried. He is not going to SF this year or next year, without receiving 2 first round picks and a second. Anybody that says different is foolish.

1. He signs the tag and makes 24 million. If he doesn't sign it, he doesn't get paid.
2. He signs a long term deal by July 15th or he doesn't. If he doesn't he doesn't play and sits on the practice squad like the last QB to leave town. This basically ruins his market value next year.
3. We have a veteran QB that can win 4 - 8 games and is willing to be a bridge QB.
4. If the agent tries to play both sides, they let him know we can tag Kirk next year as well.

Kyle has a six year contract, he can be patient. And if the 49ers stink in 2017 they can draft a good QB in the 2018 draft. Then pay him much less money and keep all their picks.

Keeping KC on the franchise tag in 2017 with less weapons can only hurt his value.

The only good option is a trade before the draft.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

The Redskins have all of the power. I do not understand why we are worried. He is not going to SF this year or next year, without receiving 2 first round picks and a second. Anybody that says different is foolish.

1. He signs the tag and makes 24 million. If he doesn't sign it, he doesn't get paid.
2. He signs a long term deal by July 15th or he doesn't. If he doesn't he doesn't play and sits on the practice squad like the last QB to leave town. This basically ruins his market value next year.
3. We have a veteran QB that can win 4 - 8 games and is willing to be a bridge QB.
4. If the agent tries to play both sides, they let him know we can tag Kirk next year as well.

Item 4. Although accurate is really not even comprehensible. A QB that is tagged for a third year is entitled to a 44% raise from the most recent tag. And if KC is making 32M in 2017, if tagged a third time, he will get 49M for 2018.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Item 4. Although accurate is really not even comprehensible. A QB that is tagged for a third year is entitled to a 44% raise from the most recent tag. And if KC is making 32M in 2017, if tagged a third time, he will get 49M for 2018.

Your numbers are way off. His tag for 2017 is $24m.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Item 4. Although accurate is really not even comprehensible. A QB that is tagged for a third year is entitled to a 44% raise from the most recent tag. And if KC is making 32M in 2017, if tagged a third time, he will get 49M for 2018.

you have the numbers wrong, his tag this year is 24M, next year's is 32M still a crazy number, but ARodgers will get that at his next signing, and if KC were to prove himself next year, by winning at least 1 playoff game and keeping his INT's down, he would get it too.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

you have the numbers wrong, his tag this year is 24M, next year's is 32M still a crazy number, but ARodgers will get that at his next signing, and if KC were to prove himself next year, by winning at least 1 playoff game and keeping his INT's down, he would get it too.

If KC had won that Giants game and gotten to the playoffs (and maybe win a playoff game?) he probably would have gotten the money that he wants.

Aaron Rodgers was a in a similar situation as KC (no running game/poor defense) and pretty much carried the team on his back to the playoffs.

He can play under the tag this year or San Francisco can have him for that #2 overall pick. But I don't think KC needs to be the highest paid QB.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Keim was on the radio about an hour ago. I think he said Kyle and KC have the same agent..... if true, it is a game of chicken, do the Redskins settle for a 2nd/3rd round pick, or play hard ball and try to get a first round pick plus ? SF could hope KC would be a true free agent in 2018....Washington should threaten to franchise KC again if SF low balls them.



Washington cannot let KC go and get nothing

Why not use the transition tag next year and match best offer?


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[skinsfaninok]

NFL Network, NFL Media reporter Sam Wyche talked about what he was told by some who work at Redskins Park. Everything Im hearing from the folks in that building is that 'Cousins has made it clear he does not want to be there,'"*said Wyche. He wants to get to San Francisco and play for Kyle Shanahan."

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[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

NFL Network, NFL Media reporter Sam Wyche talked about what he was told by some who work at Redskins Park. Everything Im hearing from the folks in that building is that 'Cousins has made it clear he does not want to be there,'"*said Wyche. He wants to get to San Francisco and play for Kyle Shanahan."

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Who the hell is Sam Wyche? He is another nobody that knows nothing about what is going on inside the building.

Did I tell you I spoke to someone at Redskins park last fall? Does that make me a legitimate source?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Who the hell is Sam Wyche? He is another nobody that knows nothing about what is going on inside the building.

Did I tell you I spoke to someone at Redskins park last fall? Does that make me a legitimate source?

Uh he works for NFLN, I know he's not a local reporter but I'm sure NFLN does some vetting before they say a bunch of shit. Do you really think NFLN wants to be lumped in with the Bleacher Reports of the sports world? This is the network that represents the NFL.

As for all the reports, idk what to believe anymore. But I'm preparing myself mentally for his departure, for all we know he's watching the shitshow in the front office and asking himself why he would want to stay with Cleveland East when he could go to SF and reunite with the guy who believed in him all along.

[diehardskin2982]

Here is the issue, all that believe Cousins is going to sign long-term in DC need to realize that it's a pipedream.

It now looks like a trade is a dream too. Dan Snyder is still meddling, no different from 2000. He refuses to trade with Kyle. Even if it insures that his team gets nothing. I really hate this owner. I wish the other owners of the redskins worked together to have him removed. He has destroyed this team.