Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.

I would have to disagree. I was vaccinated, though i have a natural immunity from when i had it last year. I know this because i shared close contact with my girlfriend for her entire bout with it, and I didnt get it. That being said...Where I work, just like everywhere else, it has become highly politicized. dems get it, and reps dont. Thats just the way its shaken out. I dont take sides. I respect peoples decision for not getting it. I really do. But at the same time, all the people that have decided against, sit in the same room and make sure to tell me, pretty much daily, that Im going to get cancer, or have an enlarged heart, or grow a third eye, and second head and that im kind of garunteed to die from this toxic vaccine that i let the government put in my body. all the while i respect their decision and dont retort. So, it goes both ways....
Yes...there are a lot of people who got the vaccine who are acting shitty to people that havent. but if you think that the unvaccinated arent casting stones calling people like me sheep every day...then you just have your head in the fucking sand.
and this isnt political in nature....im pretty middle of the road, and it seems to me both sides have been pretty shitty during this whole thing.
a sad fact, though, is that the less people there are that are vaccinated, the longer this shit show continues. natural immunity or not. the masks and mandates will continue...im sure of it.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Enlighten you about what exactly?

SS called a large portion of the population a strange bunch, seemingly because he disagrees with their beliefs and/or decisions. I'm saying he has no fucking clue. I don't know if that is enlightening or not.

Like I said, it's funny to see people like him talk shit behind their keyboards about those they disagree with, not knowing their particular rationale for making the decisions they do.

It's all good. Putting large swaths of people into one bucket is the new thing to do I guess. Like those 60,000,000 + deplorables...

Back to football.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Enlighten you about what exactly?

SS called a large portion of the population a strange bunch, seemingly because he disagrees with their beliefs and/or decisions. I'm saying he has no fucking clue. I don't know if that is enlightening or not.

Like I said, it's funny to see people like him talk shit behind their keyboards about those they disagree with, not knowing their particular rationale for making the decisions they do.

It's all good. Putting large swaths of people into one bucket is the new thing to do I guess. Like those 60,000,000 + deplorables...

Back to football.

I'm saying if he/we don't have a clue, enlighten us.

For me covid in relation to sports - guys will do anything to win - and I mean anything. They would kill people if it enhanced their ability to play football. They will take years off their life leading with their head on every other play. But they won't get a shot? Even when you know without a doubt (it doesn't matter if the vaccine is effective or not) that not getting a vaccine will actively hurt the team and make it tougher for the next season?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm saying if he/we don't have a clue, enlighten us.

For me covid in relation to sports - guys will do anything to win - and I mean anything. They would kill people if it enhanced their ability to play football. They will take years off their life leading with their head on every other play. But they won't get a shot? Even when you know without a doubt (it doesn't matter if the vaccine is effective or not) that not getting a vaccine will actively hurt the team and make it tougher for the next season?

Huh? You don't think much of football players if you believe this even remotely true. This is a weird weird comment.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Huh? You don't think much of football players if you believe this even remotely true. This is a weird weird comment.

It's an analogy, quit overreacting . Alls I'm saying is guys will do annnnnnnnnything to gain a competitive advantage.

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Originally Posted by mooby

It's an analogy, quit overreacting . Alls I'm saying is guys will do annnnnnnnnything to gain a competitive advantage.

Agreed. Sterois. HGH. Leading with the helmet. Cheap shots. The list goes on.

[Monkeydad]

In a time where players are taking controversial "social justice" stands and driving fans away, here's a player worth supporting. He's standing up for younger players who can't speak up and keep a job.

The Bills' Cole Beasley is taking a stand on forced vaccinations. The League is threatening players if they don't get the injection and he's standing up to them. Several other high-profile players including DeAndre Hopkins and Leonard Fournette are also saying they'll retire over the protocols and the injection.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-bil...211223741.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/buffalo-bill...193720432.html

I'm not anti- or pro-vax — I'm pro-choice. With that being said, the issue at hand is information being withheld from players in order for a player to be swayed in a direction he may not be comfortable with.

When dealing with a player's health and safety, there should be complete transparency regarding information that is vital in the decision-making process. Without having all the proper information, a player can feel misguided and unsure about a very personal choice. It makes a player feel unprotected and gives concerns about future topics regarding health and our ability to make educated decisions.

Some people may think that I’m being selfish and making this a ‘me’ thing. It is all about the young players who don’t have a voice and are reaching out to me every day because they’re being told if they don’t get vaxxed, they’ll be cut. Agents are being told by teams if they have unvaccinated guys, they will not be given opportunities as of now to be seen in workouts. So, once unvaccinated players get cut, they're losing a dream they have worked their whole lives for over a vaccine that is proven to not keep people from contracting COVID as we've seen.

Every doctor I've gone to with questions begins every sentence with 'From what we know now,' which tells me we don't know enough.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

In a time where players are taking controversial "social justice" stands and driving fans away, here's a player worth supporting. He's standing up for younger players who can't speak up and keep a job.

The Bills' Cole Beasley is taking a stand on forced vaccinations. The League is threatening players if they don't get the injection and he's standing up to them. Several other high-profile players including DeAndre Hopkins and Leonard Fournette are also saying they'll retire over the protocols and the injection.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-bil...211223741.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/buffalo-bill...193720432.html

Never really thought Cole Beasley was gonna be the type of guy to take this stand. I bet the fact his stance seems to get stronger is do to silent support around the league and I bet a lot of players have reached out behind to closed doors to offer support. Just kinda surprised.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm saying if he/we don't have a clue, enlighten us.

For me covid in relation to sports - guys will do anything to win - and I mean anything. They would kill people if it enhanced their ability to play football. They will take years off their life leading with their head on every other play. But they won't get a shot? Even when you know without a doubt (it doesn't matter if the vaccine is effective or not) that not getting a vaccine will actively hurt the team and make it tougher for the next season?

Well that is kinda my point. It might not make a lot of sense to you or me, but that's ok. I don't have to understand why DeAndre Hopkins doesn't want to take the vaccine. Not taking the vaccine isn't illegal. It is his choice for his reasons. He doesn't have to explain it to me or anyone else - that's America. Just like Zeke said. "You can't really tell someone what to do with their body". There are a myriad of reasons why people aren't getting the vaccine, and many of the reasons are valid. The picture is not as simple as dudes like SS would like to paint it - just some anti-vax / anti-mask strange bunch going against the grain to piss off the pro-vax / pro-mask crowd with the intent to hurt everyone else around them. That is where the "he doesn't have a clue" part comes in.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Well that is kinda my point. It might not make a lot of sense to you or me, but that's ok. I don't have to understand why DeAndre Hopkins doesn't want to take the vaccine. Not taking the vaccine isn't illegal. It is his choice for his reasons. He doesn't have to explain it to me or anyone else - that's America. Just like Zeke said. "You can't really tell someone what to do with their body". There are a myriad of reasons why people aren't getting the vaccine, and many of the reasons are valid. The picture is not as simple as dudes like SS would like to paint it - just some anti-vax / anti-mask strange bunch going against the grain to piss off the pro-vax / pro-mask crowd with the intent to hurt everyone else around them. That is where the "he doesn't have a clue" part comes in.

All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.

And that's your right Mooby.

But currently, I'm not sure you can find many politicians that aren't suggesting that you get the vaccine. And news - there is no news anymore. That shit went out the door years ago. It's all opinions anymore. Doesn't matter what channel you are watching.

My take is - listen to your doctor, do your research, evaluate your own situation, and make a decision. Whatever that decision is, I respect that.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

All I will say is this. For the people who have legit medical reasons not to take part - I respect that. For those who have taken their stance because their politicians are COVID-deniers, or they get their news from an entertainment company, or Facebook/social media, or they trust the opinion of anyone except a licensed and professional medical doctor - I do not respect that.

These people aren’t exactly who you think they are…but if you get your info from anywhere but a demographic breakdown of the data u might not know that.

Also “I’m gonna shutdown the virus”…that promise hasn’t happened either. Trying to blame Facebook ain’t gonna cut it.

[rocnrik]

I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..

[mooby]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..

Sorry to hear that Rick, good luck and I hope you get past this soon. I think we're all in agreement that vaccinated people can still get COVID - but the risk of hospitalization and death is very minimal (but not nonexistent). Hoping for the best for you.

Chief - It seems the tide is turning and even conservative politicians are mostly embracing the message now that hospitals are reporting 95-98% of their COVID patients are unvaccinated. Better late than never I suppose. As far as "news" go - well I can only speak for myself and some of my fellow millenials when I say my friends in the same generation don't put any stock into watching or reading opinions from people who get paid to say it on a platform.

My trusted sources are the AP/Reuters, and everything else gets judged on a case-by-case basis. I'm not watching any news channels - if the tv's on it's Comedy Central or sports. And thanks for the respectful conversation - it's nice to be able to discuss these things without getting heated and I don't take it for granted.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

I got tested positive for covid 2 days ago .. I was exposed on July 17 at a music event ( 20 plus people tested positive.. most of them were vaccinated) I did not get vaccine however my wife did ..problem is with this is I didn’t find out I was exposed until I had been around a lot of others .. I started feeling bad on the 9th day after exposure.. last night was rough ( horrible headache, super achy like flu.. however I have no fever , no loss of taste/smell, no breathing issues..)

my mom passed away in January of covid so I know the seriousness first hand .. this thing is far from over and if the country is to ever get back to normal the vax is probably the only way .. however what bothers me is the person I caught it from was vaccinated and had worse symptoms than me ( I’m not out of woods yet) but feeling better today ..

I think we all can agree that politics have a huge impact on the whole Mask / vax deal .. so what happens when a team is 100 % vaccinated and they have a outbreak ? Vaccinated people can still get covid and spread it .. I know this first hand .. so I don’t know the answer . I just know I’m not gonna feel good about large crowds anymore ..

Very sorry to hear all that rocnrik, especially losing your Mom. I hope you and your family pull through all this soon my friend.