Where does RGIII rank?

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Sometimes these awards are wrong, and this one, imo, is. I would give it to Russell Wilson, did you see the way he had the Bears panting at the end of the game.

Wilson wasn't playing the defending Super Bowl champions.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Wilson wasn't playing the defending Super Bowl champions.

Had you seen the Bears defense???

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Had you seen the Bears defense???

Yes, against the Niners, I think it was. Not what they were. Certainly not a defending SB champion team.

[12thMan]

I most definitely think it comes down to Griffin and Luck. Although, Griffin is running away with it on the PR front. Skins late surge could put Griff over the top.

Still think Luck edges him out.

[calia]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I most definitely think it comes down to Griffin and Luck. Although, Griffin is running away with it on the PR front. Skins late surge could put Griff over the top.

Still think Luck edges him out.

It's crazy. Luck throws something like 42 times per game because the Colts have no running game. So it stands to reason that he'd have more yards, although RGIII has as many TD passes, many fewer INTs, a higher completion percentage, more deep balls (20+ yards) for TDs and completions, and probably a few other things I can think of. Luck has the benefit of last year's horrible Colts record. But a number of things changed in Indy for the better. I don't think there is a Redskins fan anywhere that would do a QB swap with Indy, but I would bet that there are at least a handful of Indy fans that would swap QBs with us.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by calia

It's crazy. Luck throws something like 42 times per game because the Colts have no running game. So it stands to reason that he'd have more yards, although RGIII has as many TD passes, many fewer INTs, a higher completion percentage, more deep balls (20+ yards) for TDs and completions, and probably a few other things I can think of. Luck has the benefit of last year's horrible Colts record. But a number of things changed in Indy for the better. I don't think there is a Redskins fan anywhere that would do a QB swap with Indy, but I would bet that there are at least a handful of Indy fans that would swap QBs with us.

i swear somebody here said they'd trade griff for luck.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by los panda

i swear somebody here said they'd trade griff for luck.

I think there are a few fans on both teams that would swap, I think both qbs went to the best team for them, so I wouldn't change a thing.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by los panda

i swear somebody here said they'd trade griff for luck.

I remember that. I think it was some scenario where we would get draft picks and/or a player too. There's a lot of good QB's out there. More good young QB's than there has been in a long time. But there is only one RG3. And nobody....NOBODY but him that possesses the extrordinary set of skills to the degree he has and I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I remember that. I think it was some scenario where we would get draft picks and/or a player too. There's a lot of good QB's out there. More good young QB's than there has been in a long time. But there is only one RG3. And nobody....NOBODY but him that possesses the extrordinary set of skills to the degree he has and I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

that's it, i think it was for luck and 2 or 3 1st round picks.

hail to griff! wouldn't trade him for the world

[budw38]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I remember that. I think it was some scenario where we would get draft picks and/or a player too. There's a lot of good QB's out there. More good young QB's than there has been in a long time. But there is only one RG3. And nobody....NOBODY but him that possesses the extrordinary set of skills to the degree he has and I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

Even Ryan Leaf ?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by los panda

i swear somebody here said they'd trade griff for luck.

I've said he would be the only QB I would consider on a 1 for 1 trade for RGIII, but I would be hard pressed to make that trade. I still think that Luck may end up with a longer career than RGII. Note, I'm not saying I think he'll have a better career, just a longer one.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Luck doesn't have the luxury of having Alfred Morris to take the pressure of him. Would RGII be having the type of success he's having without any run game? Who knows. My guess is probably not because the run game alone has set up the PA ability that makes this offense go. The Colts offense depends much more on Luck to shoulder the burden as you can tell in the disparities in attempts. RGIII has 325 attempts to Luck's 503.

But part of griffins game is his playaction and run. not demeaning morris but I believe he benefits from griffins ability. and if griffin were on the colts they would still probably not throw as much. that's just a difference in their games, I don't see why that plays into the discussion.

[Hog1]

If I look back on any draft and the subsequent first year play of ..........any rookie qb, I cannot think of anyone that has impressed more than Robert

[SFREDSKIN]

Griffin=new age style QB

Luck=traditional pocket style QB

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Griffin=new age style QB

Luck=traditional pocket style QB

Not "new age" just superior athlete...