A New Look Offense or the Same but Better?

[30gut]

Good NFL zone read close-up:

NFL Videos: Anatomy of a Play: Broncos' read-option

Could we see plays/concepts like these next year?

[30gut]

Gruden talks about the zone read + WCO concepts that could be possibilities for our offense with Griffin:

Originally Posted by John Gruden

This read option combined with the WCO offense is just down right scary...no huddle offense..hey...it regulates the coverage and fronts a defense can play

7:50-8:30

[Bubba305-ST21-]

awesome post 30Gut. i see the defense checking out the bottom of griffs adidas cleats on that one

[The Goat]

Gruden is badass...I'd take him for HC tomorrow

[30gut]

Found another zone read look:

Giants vs Redskins 2011 :: Redskins1stTDDrive.mp4 video by Txredskins44 - Photobucket

@ 1:17 mark

[30gut]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Found another zone read look:

Giants vs Redskins 2011 :: Redskins1stTDDrive.mp4 video by Txredskins44 - Photobucket

@ 1:17 mark

Here's a closer look at another play that has a zone-read look.
Although its probably a designed run for the RB all the elements for a zone-read are present just like the play illistrated earlier from the Bills game.

- the formation


-the handoff that gives a read action "look"

-RB takes the handoff; QB completes the 'sell' of the play/read fake with a fake pass (notice the frozen backside defender)

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Here's a closer look at another play that has a zone-read look.
Although its probably a designed run for the RB all the elements for a zone-read are present just like the play illistrated earlier from the Bills game.

- the formation


-the handoff that gives a read action "look"

-RB takes the handoff; QB completes the 'sell' of the play/read fake with a fake pass (notice the frozen backside defender)

Good find. I'm a bit surprised (not at all disappointed) that Kyle was running this series with Grossman, but you can see the upside to an option play, even if one of the potential options (Grossman keeps the ball) isn't going to be honored by the defense.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Good find. I'm a bit surprised (not at all disappointed) that Kyle was running this series with Grossman, but you can see the upside to an option play, even if one of the potential options (Grossman keeps the ball) isn't going to be honored by the defense.

Yeah, I was pretty pumped to find it with Grossman.
I can't believe the contain defender didn't chase down the line toward the RB immediately, I guess he was waiting to see if Grossman kept the ball but in that case he should have covered the #2 receiver to his side and not played contain because ain't no way in the world Grossman was gonna gain positive yards if he kept it to run.

Although I've only found a handful of zone-read concept plays its still encouraging that the bare bones concepts however scarce exist within this offense.
It makes the notion of Kyle actually running some zone-read for Griffin plausible if still highly unlikely. (we can always hope)

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I'm expecting Kyle Shanahan to add new wrinkles and plays to their version of the west coast offense. They are fully going to build the offense around the things that Griffin III does best. In fact, a modified west coast offense is what they will be using this season and beyond.

I think its a matter of course that Kyle will build his offense around Griffin, like he's done with all his QBs and Mike has done for all his QBs.

But, what new wrinkles do you expect and what about Kyle makes you expect them?

[VegasSkinsFan]

I don't care if he runs the ball from time to time. Just please get the yards and get out of bounds. Im going to worry if i hear the talking head announcers say anything like "he really delivered a blow on that run" or "sometimes you need to fight or that extra yard".

[30gut]

Originally Posted by VegasSkinsFan

I don't care if he runs the ball from time to time. Just please get the yards and get out of bounds. Im going to worry if i hear the talking head announcers say anything like "he really delivered a blow on that run" or "sometimes you need to fight or that extra yard".

If and when Griffin runs he'll have to be much more situationally aware about avoiding vs. trying to get more yards then he was in college.
Griffin ran with a fearlessness that borderlined on recklessness at Baylor.

I would like to see Griffin emulate Cam Newton when it comes to running.
Despite Cam's tremendous size he was very aware conscious of avoiding unneccesary contact.
Cam rarely chose to take hits he often went down of his accord or ran out of bounds.
He seemed to only expose his body to big hits on the goalline or if a 3rd down conversion was in the balance.
I would like Griffin to adopt the same mentality.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I'm expecting Kyle Shanahan to add new wrinkles and plays to their version of the west coast offense. They are fully going to build the offense around the things that Griffin III does best. In fact, a modified west coast offense is what they will be using this season and beyond.

[GTripp0012]

I think they'll show it just as another thing teams have to prepare for, but I don't think they'll commit to it no matter how well it's actually working.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think they'll show it just as another thing teams have to prepare for, but I don't think they'll commit to it no matter how well it's actually working.

Hand held to the fire I agree, I actually don't think Kyle will make any real effort to add or run zone read as anything other then a novelty.
But, if he does commit to making it part of the base offense wow, the potential....

But, Griff is a stud.
Even if you plug Griff into last years offense he would be productive.

[Mechanix544]

I really believe that we will see 20 or maybe 30% of our plays from the shotgun this year. Get him early reps, alot of them, and give him a chance to pick defenses apart from a 3 step shotgun with alot of flankers, tight-end flats, and quick slants. His accuracy is uncanny, pick away at the defense, and then bust em with the ol hitch and go. I think we will see alot of short passes setting up the deep throws, more-so than the run setting up all of the passes...........

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I really believe that we will see 20 or maybe 30% of our plays from the shotgun this year............

You probably mean more then 20-30% of our plays from the shotgun because that % is actually less then we ran last year.(I've looked it up before its available on Fox stats)

I understand that you want to see more shotugn, I do too.

I just wonder what makes you think Kyle would chnage his offense that much?