Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated

Dirtbag59 · 04-28-2011, 12:29 AM

Speaking of Free Agency. NFL Network is running a top 10 of the worst free agent signings in history....wonder if any of our signings will make it. Pretty tough. They're up to 6 with David Boston. $47 million contract, $12 signing bonus released after one year. Drug use, PED's, sleeping in meetings, didn't get along with the media.

10. Emmit Smith - Cards
9. Scott Mitchell - Lions
8. Ahman Green - Houston
7. Jeff Garcia - Browns
6. David Boston - Chargers
5. Neil O'Donnel - Jets
4. Andre Rison - Browns
3. Larry Brown/Desmond Howard - Raiders
2. Alvin Harper - Bucs

Dirtbag59 · 04-28-2011, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Speaking of Free Agency. NFL Network is running a top 10 of the worst free agent signings in history....wonder if any of our signings will make it. Pretty tough. They're up to 6 with David Boston. $47 million contract, $12 signing bonus released after one year. Drug use, PED's, sleeping in meetings, didn't get along with the media.

10. Emmit Smith - Cards
9. Scott Mitchell - Lions
8. Ahman Green - Houston
7. Jeff Garcia - Browns
6. David Boston - Chargers
5. Neil O'Donnel - Jets
4. Andre Rison - Browns
3. Larry Brown/Desmond Howard - Raiders
2. Alvin Harper - Bucs
1. Anyone to the Redskins

So they're about to go number 1 and they're alluding to how they're going to make it all of the Redskin free agent signings.

Update: LMAO, Number 1 is "Anyone to the Redskins."

Dana Stubblefield, Jeff George, Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Albert Haynesworth, Adam Archuletta, ARE.

"This deserves it's own top 10 list.

"They're not all bad, London Fletcher."

hooskins · 04-28-2011, 12:38 AM

NFL will advise teams how to proceed on Thursday | ProFootballTalk

NC_Skins · 04-28-2011, 08:38 AM

NFL owners are wrong, and don’t get it - The Washington Post

NC_Skins · 04-28-2011, 11:14 AM

Cardinals, Dolphins turn players away, too | ProFootballTalk

Doesn't look like it's just the Skins either Smoot.

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Per the source, tackle Levi Brown was advised in Arizona the the league is waiting for the 8th Circuit’s decision. In Miami, Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder was met with a letter posted on the door explaining the league’s decision to wait it out.

...take in mind this is Florio reporting.

SmootSmack · 04-28-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Cardinals, Dolphins turn players away, too | ProFootballTalk

Doesn't look like it's just the Skins either Smoot.

...take in mind this is Florio reporting.

I think it may be semantics. As I understand it, Rabach and Alexander were able to enter the facility and spoke with Bruce Allen among others but no they couldn't train until this whole issue is resolved. So, no they were turned away at Redskins Park, but there wasn't much they could do.

But I know the other day, Alexander (I think it was him) went to Redskin Park to ensure he gets his workout bonus as much as anything else. He wanted to show his face and prove he at least attempted to work out.

SmootSmack · 04-28-2011, 01:19 AM

Let's keep this thread about the current labor situation

Schneed10 · 04-28-2011, 08:55 AM

Well I don't think anybody is suggesting the league is going to install 2010 rules under which to move forward. By definition, they can't install any rules without bargaining in good faith with the players.

Absent any collective bargaining agreement, and given Judge Nelson's recent ruling, the league has to move forward under a free market system. No salary cap, all clauses (as JR mentioned) have to be explicitly installed into each individual contract, etc.

What this does is put all the pressure on the owners to come to a quick agreement with the players. If they get the players to agree to using 2010 rules under the pretense that further bargaining will take place to establish a new CBA, that is not collusion at all.

The whole point of Judge Nelson's ruling is to say, you can't lock out the players, now get back to the table and negotiate immediately, or you're going to have to move forward without any rules in place.

MTK · 04-28-2011, 09:01 AM

The owners sure are taking it on the chin.

NC_Skins · 04-28-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

The owners sure are taking it on the chin.

Their arrogance is very reminiscent to that of Roger Clemens.

Lotus · 04-28-2011, 10:36 AM

Players show up to work out, Redskins turn them away | ProFootballTalk

NC_Skins · 04-28-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Players show up to work out, Redskins turn them away | ProFootballTalk

I hope like hell they get slapped with contempt. That's exactly what they are showing right now. Haul every single one of the owners refusing to allow players in should go to jail, no passing go and collecting 4 billion dollars.

SmootSmack · 04-28-2011, 11:05 AM

I don't know. I've got some sources who say they were allowed in, and were inside the facility. I think Holliday may have gotten bad information.

Alvin Walton · 04-28-2011, 11:18 AM

Hehe...the players should have a big tailgate in the parking lot and invite the media.

CRedskinsRule · 04-28-2011, 11:26 AM

So the players are filing there response to the stay request tomorrow.

Albert Breer
In latest court filing, Brady class counsel says it will file an opposition to plaintiffs' motion for immediate stay by noon on Friday.

does that mean that the 8th circuit won't say anything till tomorrow night? If so, definitely puts the kabash on any 1st round player trading (ie K Kolb) We still may have time to trade AH for mister irrelevant

04-28-2011, 12:29 AM	#1
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Speaking of Free Agency. NFL Network is running a top 10 of the worst free agent signings in history....wonder if any of our signings will make it. Pretty tough. They're up to 6 with David Boston. $47 million contract, $12 signing bonus released after one year. Drug use, PED's, sleeping in meetings, didn't get along with the media. 10. Emmit Smith - Cards 9. Scott Mitchell - Lions 8. Ahman Green - Houston 7. Jeff Garcia - Browns 6. David Boston - Chargers 5. Neil O'Donnel - Jets 4. Andre Rison - Browns 3. Larry Brown/Desmond Howard - Raiders 2. Alvin Harper - Bucs __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-28-2011, 12:38 AM	#3
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04-28-2011, 08:38 AM	#4
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,602	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated NFL owners are wrong, and don’t get it - The Washington Post

04-28-2011, 01:19 AM	#7
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04-28-2011, 08:55 AM	#8
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Well I don't think anybody is suggesting the league is going to install 2010 rules under which to move forward. By definition, they can't install any rules without bargaining in good faith with the players. Absent any collective bargaining agreement, and given Judge Nelson's recent ruling, the league has to move forward under a free market system. No salary cap, all clauses (as JR mentioned) have to be explicitly installed into each individual contract, etc. What this does is put all the pressure on the owners to come to a quick agreement with the players. If they get the players to agree to using 2010 rules under the pretense that further bargaining will take place to establish a new CBA, that is not collusion at all. The whole point of Judge Nelson's ruling is to say, you can't lock out the players, now get back to the table and negotiate immediately, or you're going to have to move forward without any rules in place. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

04-28-2011, 09:01 AM	#9
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04-28-2011, 11:05 AM	#13
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated I don't know. I've got some sources who say they were allowed in, and were inside the facility. I think Holliday may have gotten bad information. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-28-2011, 11:18 AM	#14
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04-28-2011, 11:26 AM	#15
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 58 Posts: 21,702	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated So the players are filing there response to the stay request tomorrow. Albert Breer In latest court filing, Brady class counsel says it will file an opposition to plaintiffs' motion for immediate stay by noon on Friday. does that mean that the 8th circuit won't say anything till tomorrow night? If so, definitely puts the kabash on any 1st round player trading (ie K Kolb) We still may have time to trade AH for mister irrelevant

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