Spagnuolo stays with Giants!

[halodoc]

i still think there are better options then settling for fossil who is an awful canidate to begin with.the chargers waited awhile last year and had that whole mess up with marty getting fired and bringing in norv , but it worked out for them. i was surprised russ grimm wasnt contacted to begin with, cause i think he would do fine. and if we get a retred i wanted jim mora jr but we messed that up ,so id go for mike tice. tice help turn the jags off a dominetnt one with a one two puch running game and david garrad coming along nicely. so he could work with betts , portis and jason campbell in the same manor. i also would like the idea of browns oc rob chudzinski ,who turned an alful off into a nice one.plus he worked at mamai hurricans as a coach from 94 to 03 so he would already have that to connect with some of are players. now my last thought would to simple upgrade one of are assints to head coach. say greg blance then bring in dl coach pepper johnson of the patriots.but the best in house canidate is joe bugel. yes extremly old yet always fired up bugel. the players will respect him more the any other coach they could bring in ,and it would save some face with the fans. he already has head coaching experence from 90-93 with the cards and in 97 with oak.make him into the head figure and have blance and zorn run plays like gibbs had al and gregg do. so im all for going from one joe to another.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by halodoc

i still think there are better options then settling for fossil who is an awful canidate to begin with.the chargers waited awhile last year and had that whole mess up with marty getting fired and bringing in norv , but it worked out for them.

Uh, which side are you supporting again. You declared your self anti-Fassel, and then gave one of the most foolproof pro-Fassel arguments: "if it can work for Norv, it can work for anyone".

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Uh, which side are you supporting again. You declared your self anti-Fassel, and then gave one of the most foolproof pro-Fassel arguments: "if it can work for Norv, it can work for anyone".

And then he made a push for Bugel (who I love as an Offensive Line Coach) who has done far, far, less than Fassel as a head coach; and over 10 years ago

[halodoc]

i just have never liked fossil thats all ,if it was pretty much anyone else i proberly wouldnt be as aginst it ,but i am for " joe for hc"

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by halodoc

i just have never liked fossil thats all ,if it was pretty much anyone else i proberly wouldnt be as aginst it ,but i am for " joe for hc"

Do you have any real reason not to like him, or just cause?

[Hijinx]

I guess I thought that since Fassel was the front runner they had the basics of the contract worked out and it wouldn't be this long. But then again the marathon interview with Spags didn't end till last night.

[Paintrain]

Mort reported on NFL Live that the plane is going to pick up Fassel and to expect a Friday afternoon presser to announce him as HC..

[redskinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Mort reported on NFL Live that the plane is going to pick up Fassel and to expect a Friday afternoon presser to announce him as HC..

just heard the same thing.is mooch still in arizona this week???i'd take him over fassell any day.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Mort reported on NFL Live that the plane is going to pick up Fassel and to expect a Friday afternoon presser to announce him as HC..

Looks like you didn't call it

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Looks like you didn't call it

LOL, oh well.. So much for my career change to Mr. Cleo..

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Mort reported on NFL Live that the plane is going to pick up Fassel and to expect a Friday afternoon presser to announce him as HC..

There you go. Now your getting what you wanted...them to name someone.

1. The reason we did not have a really good list of candidates for HC is because usually the GM would be doing this. Probubly making lists every year and updating them in case of sudden HC changes(as with Gibbs). No real GM to real list.

2. A lot of you keep bringing up how all the hatred toward Fassel is a direct result of GM being let go or not getting the HC job and that we all would have simply accepted him in 04. Sorry I was not one who wanted him in 04. When he was brought up this time I looked elsewhere until he seemed to be the only coach with experience of being a HC and figured he would only be a figure head with the coordinator positions already picked. Then Mooch was brought into the picture...I was not even thinking of him until he was mentioned. I did like him because it would be a good match having an offensive minded HC to help out a first time OC. Plus they both know the WC. I learned that Fassel may have been in the WC also and may know that style as well. He would not be a bad choice but I still prefer Mooch over Fassel.

3. Where were all you people when the polls were happening. It seemed there was an overwhelming population that wanted Mooch over Fassel per the 75% who picked Mooch. Now everyone is .."oh well Fassel is not bad." "Why does everyone not like Fassel?" "Fassel is the man." lol. ok I made up the last one.

I guess the DS hold out has worked in his favour. Hold out long enough and the people will be glad he hired anyone.

4. DS has messed this whole HC hiring up. I would almost love to see everyone turn him down at this point. If all he wants is a figure head as a coach then he should just stand on the side lines himself. Atleast he could boast to Jerry Jones that he made it there before JJ did. lol.

Theres no wonder why people are hessitant to take this job. Who on gods green earth would want to interview for 10-12 hours? Oh don't get me wrong the money is a big motivator but one would have to guess that there would be many more 10-12 hour meetings every year. Perhaps thats not the case but if I was an outsider I would be thinking " Nah....he might be having marathon meetings all the time. Not for me."

So now who do we have left? Fassel, Mooch, and Meeks. I'm betting he is out picking up Fassel right now. It's not rocket science. He wanted him in 04 and he wanted him in 08. He spoke with Fassel and picked up most of the coordinators he requested. These were Fassels choices. Meeks has no HC abilities yet. His defensive schemes would probubly not co exist with Blache's (which is why I think Spag did not take the job.) Now your stuck with Mooch or Fassel and as I'm sure Mooch would probubly take the job(even if DS had to throw money at him to come out East) and he worked for Holmgren also. Something to commiserate about. However if you think about it Fassel makes sence. Everyone's fire about not hiring him has fizzled. If he leads the team into the play offs then DS is a master mind( he looks good.) If Fassel fizzles as his popularity did and goes no where then DS can look at all the possibilities available next year including Cowher.

I'm still holding out hope Mooch gets it. He's a tad younger. Knows the Holmgren branch of the WC. Coached Farve. Is a QB coach also and can help out Zorn while he is working with the other units..ie WR, RB, OL and TE. Yes he is a QB coach but a coordinator will have to make sure all the other units are understanding the offensive scheme also. Observe the other units and decide which players should start. He possibly can't be with JC through the whole training camp.

Mooch has a hotter looking wife.

[halodoc]

im not sure where the hatred comes from but i never thought he should of been a head coach to begin with and im not saying bugel would be that much better. but im assuming who ever is the head coach this year will be a temp untill next year when he can get cower or some other big name. so bugel would be able to keep alittle more countinty from the gibbs part 2 era then anyone else .because if we think whoever is the head coach is staying after one year ,where kidding are selves ,he might of fired gibbs after one year if he wasnt "gibbs" with the whole games passed him by bs.so we messed up with letting gw and al walk, breaking up what we had going ,so why not bugel over fossil -same difference in the end ,and proberly would finish with the same record in between 5 and 8 wins

[halodoc]

oh well there goes this thread ,atleast its over and we can discuss player moves and draft choices .

[halodoc]

and farewell tro my 3 second joe bugel for head coach campain

[Campbell17]

I thought he would be perfect for the skins, how do we avoid fassel now?