Ocho Cinco In B&G

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

It sounds like there's more to CJ's behavior than just a passion for winning & celebrating. He's been gradually acting more selfish. The first publicity I remember of it was when the host bengals lost to the evenutal SB champ steelers in 05-06. At halftime of that game it was reported that he threw a tantrum & had to be restrained.

Since then it seems the sideline arguments & overall complaining have increased. He's nowhere near the problem child TO is, but his behavior, as noted by JLC, has alienated teamates. It's too easy to say all the bengals are to blame. Sure, they've had a lot of problem players as far as off field stuff goes, but none of them appears as selfish on the field.

I'm not a fan of ego centric WR, either....i am a Monk type guy...anyways...it could be that he is embarrased and "type cast" in the locker room and wants a fresh start....I think this guy is young. Egocentric guys get in a lot of trouble when they are young and make mistakes....it is possible that he may shut his mouth and do his job if he changes teams.

just because there is a TO that is full of crap, doesn't mean guys like Moss and CJ can't learn from their mistakes. I really think he needs a fresh start with a new team...I just hope it aint in the NFC east....who needs him most over here?.....you got it.....Philly.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

We need help on our lines before we need yet another high paid WR.
This is why Snder and Cerrato are not very good at building a solid team. We need to start with our lines. But Snyderato are all about getting skill players.

Excellent Points....exactly why we are speculating about the skins going after a "splashy" WR already under contract.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

From what I hear Larry Fitzgerald might also be available.

Are you serious?
I LOVE that guy!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Are you serious?
I LOVE that guy!

L.F. also has a crazy cap figure, so trading for the guy would eat up tons of cap space and a high draft pick. If we were to trade for him and sign him to a new contract, he'd certainly want a massive deal. If you're earning more than $10M per year (yes I said $10M), why would you take anything less than a blockbuster deal? If we are intent on using free agency or trades to get a star wideout, I would vote for trading for Roy Williams, who is reportedly on the block.

[MonkFan4Life]

Speaking of Williams, did he and Mooch have any problems while in Detroit or were they pretty cool ? I ask this because if they ahd a good relationship then he could be a possibility with CJ being the smokescreen. I would prefer Johnson though, he'd make the games pretty fun besides the possible upside to havinh him line up alongside Moss.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Speaking of Williams, did he and Mooch have any problems while in Detroit or were they pretty cool ? I ask this because if they ahd a good relationship then he could be a possibility with CJ being the smokescreen. I would prefer Johnson though, he'd make the games pretty fun besides the possible upside to havinh him line up alongside Moss.

IMO, Roy Williams is a better player and will cost less to acquire than Chad Johnson.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

IMO, Roy Williams is a better player and will cost less to acquire than Chad Johnson.

I like your thinking...one more reason to hope mooch gets the job

[TheSmurfs22]

Would Moss even want to come here? I know money definitely talks, but he is with an organization that is stable and WINS!

The Skins need to find some stability. If the Redskins have learned anything it is that big names do not always translate in to consistent players or mean your oganization is going to win.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

L.F. also has a crazy cap figure, so trading for the guy would eat up tons of cap space and a high draft pick. If we were to trade for him and sign him to a new contract, he'd certainly want a massive deal. If you're earning more than $10M per year (yes I said $10M), why would you take anything less than a blockbuster deal? If we are intent on using free agency or trades to get a star wideout, I would vote for trading for Roy Williams, who is reportedly on the block.

I 2 would like Williams over CJ. I'm not saying having CJ would be bad cuz if it happened after a reasonable trade, I'd be all for it, but I think Williams would fit the west coast offense system a little better plus be a bit cheaper since he's had some durability issues. If the Skins end up with either for a reasonable price, I'd be ecstatic.

[That Guy]

CJ is obviously the best choice (but 30, and we cant give up our #1 for him on top of his contract and call it a big win).
then LF, who'd have issues with money/cap/team comp (ick).
then roy williams (who might be the cheapest while still providing the true #1 WR we need, or at least being insurance against moss's hamstrings and providing a much better starting duo)

while i REALLY want CJ, getting roy would probably be a lot cheaper, and i'd be happy about how that need was addressed.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If we're going to overpay for someone I would rather see CJ here over Moss.

I can see how you would like CJ over Moss as people, but as players, no team in the NFC east would ever want to see him on our team.

Having him on our squad would instantly accelerate the development of JC or make any other QB at the time Pro Bowl worthy.

Randy Moss ALL day!

[bertoskins2]

Mr. snyder bring OCho cinco here

[Stuck in TX]

I am so sick of hearing of free agents! anyone familiar with Marques Colston? We need to get a good scout and find a diamond in the rough somewhere in the draft. Because of big players like Ocho Cinco we can't even afford to keep the good ones we draft (i.e. Antonio Pierce from a couple years ago).

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

I am so sick of hearing of free agents! anyone familiar with Marques Colston? We need to get a good scout and find a diamond in the rough somewhere in the draft. Because of big players like Ocho Cinco we can't even afford to keep the good ones we draft (i.e. Antonio Pierce from a couple years ago).

good points, not bad for your 2nd post here...
WELCOME!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

I am so sick of hearing of free agents! anyone familiar with Marques Colston? We need to get a good scout and find a diamond in the rough somewhere in the draft. Because of big players like Ocho Cinco we can't even afford to keep the good ones we draft (i.e. Antonio Pierce from a couple years ago).

#1 WRs don't come often in the 7th round, and we could afford pierce, but the forces that be didn't think he was worth the price...

and welcome. are you at sheppard right now?