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07-19-2018, 07:24 AM
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
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One thing I think we have seen, and the depths of it is pretty amazing, is how deep Russia was willing to go to sow discord in our political environment. They were funnelling money and trolls to both sides simply to polarize the country, and it was/is a pretty effective strategy. But I do think the world has always underestimated how united this country can become if the circumstances of the international arena require it. Even as polarized as we are, our ability to function as a nation-state is pretty amazing when you think about it. With a near 50/50 split most european countries would have disbanded their parliaments and been forced into political chaos as the parties held continual referendums and alliances shifted under foot. Our federal/local structure and our constitution allows us to disagree vehemently, yet have a functioning government with no real hint of collapse or uprising. At worst we get congressional inaction and paralysis, which isn't necessarily the worst thing. |
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07-19-2018, 11:12 AM
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That said, the 25 indictments against Russian operatives and agents are truly laughable. Could you imagine how many spies/kgb undercover agents we could have indicted during the cold war? I know people think that us Trumpeteers are overblowing the partisan nature of the ongoing investigations, but it's really hard to imagine, that when as many top FBI/DOJ personnel have been fired/reassigned as trump associates have been indicted, that there isn't a bias at play. One last thing, and I know this is also a Trumpeteer talking point, but everyone does realize that these Russian infiltrations into the Democratic servers took place under Pres Obama's watch, right? Does it absolve the Russians, no not at all, but IF they had the knowledge that these foreign agents were working overtime, and all indications are that they did, then I would have thought that would have been pretty important to bring up in the full brief daily briefings Clinton and Trump received, AND pretty important for the US political class to resolve a way to bring to the US citizens in a unified way, instead of the purely partisan approach BOTH sides took. Just points to more failures of our political upper echelons class. |
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07-17-2018, 08:57 PM
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So the latest Russian spy that was arrested happened to be chosen out of a crowd by Trump randomly. What a coincidence. Lol.
Now the piece of shit says that he meant to say “would not” instead of “would” and the GOP and the Trumpers are all “good enough for me”. The amount of Russian nothing that HAS happened with this guy over the last couple years culminating in him sucking off Putin on the grandest of stages yesterday is so fucking obviously wrong that it is disgusting. Please stop with Obama and the left and the bullshit. THE GUY IS FUCKING IN DEEP WITH PUTIN - AND IT IS GOING TO COME OUT. |
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07-17-2018, 09:47 PM
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07-17-2018, 10:30 PM
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07-18-2018, 12:12 AM
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Forget US policy. Putin does not give a fuck about ISIS, Jerusalem, and we didn’t do dick about Syria. He gives a fuck about one thing and one thing only. Revenge on the western world and the EU for the fall of the Soviet Union. His agenda? Watching the POTUS - the leader of the free world - tear apart NATO and our allies while giving Russia legitimacy and a free pass to influence western democracy. It is really that simple man - dont overthink it looking for concrete policies that somehow hurt Russia. It isn’t about that to Putin. It is about a world view. And its all unfolding in front of our faces in a bigly way my man. Putin is grinning from ear to ear right now. |
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07-17-2018, 09:45 PM
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07-17-2018, 09:48 PM
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Honest question , think these two would let Obama get away with that?
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07-17-2018, 11:39 PM
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Just a laughable walk back... This fucking guy |
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07-18-2018, 09:42 AM
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"Uh, I believe our IC intel.........but it could have been another person."  It's obvious he was forced to read that statement yesterday. The look on his face said it all. I think his staff and congress put their foot down on that shit. Surprisingly.
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07-17-2018, 09:53 PM
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Sean Hannity if obama would have given that presser yesterday:
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07-17-2018, 10:02 PM
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Lol. I cannot even imagine. |
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07-18-2018, 12:21 AM
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The question you need to ask is why in the hell is Trump so ready to bend over backwards for this mother fucker? Why the hell does he have to add “and other people” or “some fat guy on a bed” or “other countries “ everytime he is FORCED to say “russia interfered”????? What is in it for him to not point the finger at Russia? I know whats in it for the GOP not to castrate him. They want to be re-elected. But wth is in it for Trump? If that doesn’t make you wonder what the hell this guy is up to than you are either in denial or not able to follow the bouncing ball. And i find it hard to believe that ESPECIALLY after that shit show in Helsinki.
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07-18-2018, 08:20 AM
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07-18-2018, 10:27 AM
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"So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki," Trump tweeted Wednesday morning.
 https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/18/polit...nce/index.html |
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