If Pryor entered the supplemental draft would you pick him.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I would argue that Ohio St. is nowhere near a "Pro Style" offense.

While Pryor was padding his numbers against; Marshall, Ohio, E. Michigan and the middle/bottom of the Big Ten how did he do against competitive teams:
Wisconsin: 14-28 156yds 50% Comp 0 TD 1 INT
Miami: 12-27 233yds 44% Comp 1 TD 0 INT
Iowa: 18-33 195yds 54.5% Comp 1 TD 2 INT
Arkansas: He played well 14-25 221yds 56% Comp 2 TD 0 INT

Keep in mind he won't be able to put up the run numbers he did in the NCAA at the NFL level. Pryor is not, and I don't expect will develop into, a proficient passer at the NFL level. Would I risk a sixth rounder on him as an "athlete", yes. Projected as a full-time QB, no way.

I thought I was in the wrong thread for a second there with all the NCAA football programs revenue talk, what happened? Anyway back to Mr.Pryor.

You can disagree that Ohio State was a pro-style offense, but that means venturing into the definition of a pro-style offense, we can just agree to disagree on that point then, although I think its fairly obvious that Ohio State is a pro-style offense especially considering the number of college teams running the spread or spread variants.

About the numbers, you can take most any QB and pick their worst games and do the same thing you did above.

Did Pryor have some bad games? Sure. But, most college prospects are gonna have some bad games.

You make no mention of his physical skillset and that is a major factor in how QB prospects are judged.

I'm not into the prediction business so I'm not gonna guess wether Pryor develops or not.
But, Pryor does have an NFL skillset, and if you could get him for a 6th round pick , which isn't considered much different then an UDFA then that would be great value in my book.

The question the OP didn't ask is: would Pryor be a fit for Kyle's offense?
The answer to that question imo is no, now in Mike's offense?

[diehardskin2982]

The last thing we need in this rebuild is another contreversal player. We need to eliminate drama not add too it.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

The last thing we need in this rebuild is another contreversal player. We need to eliminate drama not add too it.

Exactly!!!!!!! Not to mention he is not a NFL QB.

[TheSmurfs22]

Nah, let this one pass.

[30gut]

How come whenever a star college athlete gets caught with their hand in the cookie everyone pretends like that guy is the only guy doing it?

[SFREDSKIN]

Shanahan has learned his lesson from drafting Maurice Clarrett and won't make that mistake again. Pryor will be another NFL bust if drafted.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by 30gut

How come whenever a star college athlete gets caught with their hand in the cookie everyone pretends like that guy is the only guy doing it?

First of all why? Simple, most guys are smart enough not to be so blatant about it. Why would you show off when you know the press has you in the spotlight?

[tryfuhl]

No because I think that a 4th rounder is his true value as an NFL QB. You're supposed to get a potential steal in the supplemental draft, not fair value.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

No because I think that a 4th rounder is his true value as an NFL QB. You're supposed to get a potential steal in the supplemental draft, not fair value.

Pryor isn't potential anything at QB. Kiper is right. If you take a chance with him it is at WR, but then his idiocracy should make him undraftable.

[GusFrerotte]

As a Buckeye fan who has watched the Scarlet and Grey since Earle coached them, I can wholeheartedly say he would be a wasted pick. Many guys like Kiper think he is WR material and never will be a NFL QB, and I concur. He runs, but is not a very good passer, not good enough to win in the NFL for that matter. From his frosh year to last year, he never lived up to expectations as his learning/improvement curve stayed relatively low. The guy is a total idiot that helped bring down a pretty good HC. I do not understand why anyone would even want to waste a draft pick on a 3-4 year QB project that simply won't pan out. To succeed in the NFL as a QB you must use your most important organ, your brain. Not only doesn't Pryor have an accurate arm, he is an imbecile.

[Defensewins]

Not sure I believe this but I thought I would post it.

Source: NCAA interviews Ohio State Buckeyes' Terrelle Pryor, mother Thomasina on use of loaner cars - ESPN

[Defensewins]

College football is a joke and is a big mess. Between the BCS bowl system, the good ole boy bowl committees and its crazy rules, don't blame one guy for this supposed 'huge scandal'. I have been reading more about this so called 'huge scandal'. Yes, rules were broken but this is not a grade fixing or test cheating scandal about eligibility. Players were not caught taking steroids. OSU players did not gang raped a girl and the team and school covered it up.
The players sold rings and other memorabilia that was GIVEN to them. Since when do you GIVE a gift to someone with rules of you can not sell the gift? The rules in college sports and amateur sports are joke especially when you think about the large amount of money college football generates for the NCAA and the Schools...while at the same time some of these kids come from poor families. I was a poor college student once. There were days I barely had money to get something healthy to eat.
Add to this the crazy NFL rule that a player has to be a certain age to play this game in the NFL. This was done to make the NCAA happy and allow scouts free access to the campus' and keep them happy.
It is so easy for some to demonize the players and coaches.
Are academic scholarship students in college under the same set of rules?

[NC_Skins]

^^ In response to that crazy rant above, I have to say your stance is a bit misguided. Athletes are under a set of rules to prevent advantages from bigger schools with more resources. It has to be in place to keep the advantages equal. However, it's apparent that the bigger schools aren't abiding by these rules as we've seen time and time again the programs being brought down.

What they should do is this. Coaches that get caught breaking (or ignoring) NCAA infractions, they should be fired, fined, and banned from coaching (beginning at a 5 year ban to indefinitely). Period. Tressel should never be allowed to coach again in the NCAA. It's not his first offense, and most likely won't be his last. (and many other coaches fall under this as well)

Right now, a coach can have all sorts of NCAA infractions against them, jet to another school and nothing happens.(in any sport) How in the hell does John Calapari still have a job in the NCAA system? It's mind boggling.


Paying athletes? Nope. SHouldn't happen. They get paid for room and board, education, and the cost of books. I dare you add that all up and see how much it equates to. Also, people don't realize that the money that college football (or basketball) brings in supports all the other athletic programs at a school.

EAST CAROLINA OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE - Facilities

Look at that sweet new Olympic Complex going up at ECU. Who do think pays for that new soccer, softball, track field? Football does, that's who. Who do you think pays for the girls basketball team to travel from place to place? Football and men's basketball, that's who.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Also, people don't realize that the money that college football (or basketball) brings in supports all the other athletic programs at a school.

Universally? Where is your proof? This is a myth.

I would be willing to bet that at a fine institution such as East Carolina, football, at very best, is self sustaining from a financial perspective. But even that would put ECU in the minority of self-sustaining FB programs, so it certainly wouldn't shock me if their football program (along with the rest of C-USA) are running in the red.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Universally? Where is your proof? This is a myth.

I would be willing to bet that at a fine institution such as East Carolina, football, at very best, is self sustaining from a financial perspective. But even that would put ECU in the minority of self-sustaining FB programs, so it certainly wouldn't shock me if their football program (along with the rest of C-USA) are running in the red.

First off, I work at a University. Second, I know and work with people in the Athletic Department so I know how it works. You on the other hand are making claims about it being a "myth" when it is in fact a reality. Where is YOUR proof that it's a myth?

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Also, if it goes in the red for so long without another program carrying it, chances are it'll be shutdown.