The Redskins Are Close

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just saw someone put what I was going to say about Dilfer...if he can get a team there, then anyone can..hell they didn't score an offensive touchdown for an entire month. Look, Campbell is doing what Zorn is asking. He is NOT taking shots down the field (in my opinion) because he doesn't want to risk turning the ball over, so he'll check down to the shorter receiver. I guess the option we have is, do we want a guy that isn't going to throw the ball down field into double coverage just for a possible completion or more like a pick (Jake Delhoume, Jay Cutler, Brett Favre) or someone that is going to see its not there, check down and try another shot later in the game? There is a lot of risk reward with throwing deep, and yes he has missed a couple of throws, but I think once he gets confidence in Kelly and Thomas we'll see a lot more deep balls over the season, then the offense will be one of the best in the league.

Is he Campbell or Zorn?

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just saw someone put what I was going to say about Dilfer...if he can get a team there, then anyone can..hell they didn't score an offensive touchdown for an entire month. Look, Campbell is doing what Zorn is asking. He is NOT taking shots down the field (in my opinion) because he doesn't want to risk turning the ball over, so he'll check down to the shorter receiver. I guess the option we have is, do we want a guy that isn't going to throw the ball down field into double coverage just for a possible completion or more like a pick (Jake Delhoume, Jay Cutler, Brett Favre) or someone that is going to see its not there, check down and try another shot later in the game? There is a lot of risk reward with throwing deep, and yes he has missed a couple of throws, but I think once he gets confidence in Kelly and Thomas we'll see a lot more deep balls over the season, then the offense will be one of the best in the league.

Though that sounds great I think this is a unrealistic fantasy. I just don't see how a team gets 100% better on their worst aspect.

What you're talking about would take a Hollywood montage to accomplish. I can see them connecting a little more and then perhaps becoming 10-20% more efficient but as for becoming one of the league's best...that is laughable.

Also Campbell's deep accuracy is terrible so that makes this hopeful outcome even more bleak.

[redskin4n]

Are We Seriously Tripping Up On The Lions' Tail?

We cannot just predict games and their scores because, its not realistic. For example, in the first game against the Midgets the biggest concern(s) were brought up (We all know what happened). Then against the Reindeers, we improved (A little) on offense. Then when we got into the *** zone we stalled. Today (Friday) at the Skins practice they heavy dosed on *** zone work.

Lets be real here.

Im not gonna be Negative about the Skins

Im not gonna be Positive about the Skins

But i will be staying "Medium" with an open mind on Sunday.


HAIL!!!
Snow!!!
Rain!!!

[Mechanix544]

Man oh man I hope we dont drop this game. I really hope we dont.

[Hog1]

I will be keeping an open mind as well on Sunday.................as I watch the Skins Kick the livin' S... outta' detroit..........27-6

[Coff]

This is only a big game for Zorn if we lose.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Coff

This is only a big game for Zorn if we lose.

I'll go one step further and say this is a big game for Zorn if we don't kill them.

[12thMan]

Reading some of these posts, like I said, you would think Campbell was Jake Delhomme. And he's not. No one completes 100% of their deep balls. Heck, not even 50%! We just need to start taking the shots down the field and the catches will come. This isn't a JC can't hit this guy or that guy issue, it's a taking the chance issue. As far as I'm concerned that's on Jim Zorn.

But you have don't believe me, go over to NFL.com and see how many quarterbacks have completions over 40 yards this year.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Reading some of these posts, like I said, you would think Campbell was Jake Delhomme. And he's not. No one completes 100% of their deep balls. Heck, not even 50%! We just need to start taking the shots down the field and the catches will come. This isn't a JC can't hit this guy or that guy issue, it's a taking the chance issue. As far as I'm concerned that's on Jim Zorn.

But you have don't believe me, go over to NFL.com and see how many quarterbacks have completions over 40 yards this year.

Perhaps not but JC really cannot hit people in stride. I know this comparison is unfair but watch Brees throw down the field. He's making connections with people in stride. Now that is best in the league doing it but players like Romo and Eli Manning are doing timing routes down the field that are connecting with people in stirde.

JC has not been able to connect more than 15+ yards down the field with anybody in stride. The Randle El leaping grab to me is not in stride, by the way.

All of JC's throws are to receivers who have dropped into a zone and are basically in a stationary spot on the field. Now whether that is because of Zorn's lack of trust or whatever, who knows, but JC's stride connections are simply not happening.

[12thMan]

Ture, Skinny. What I'm saying, and not very clearly, is that even Brees got good at throwing that type of ball by doing it. Jason Campbell has to get good by doing it. Yes, Brees is probably the ultimate example but we don't need Campbell to be Breesesque. I just want him to be good at what he's good at and do one or two things great.

Bottom line, they simply need to take more shots down field. The timing is a result of repetition, I think.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Ture, Skinny. What I'm saying, and not very clearly, is that even Brees got good at throwing that type of ball by doing it. Jason Campbell has to get good by doing it. Yes, Brees is probably the ultimate example but we don't need Campbell to be Breesesque. I just want him to be good at what he's good at and do one or two things great.

Bottom line, they simply need to take more shots down field. The timing is a result of repetition, I think.

Brees is great because he does what most QBs do some of the time all of the time. He consistently finds the single coverage and puts the ball where his WR is going to have the best chance of catching it. The Defender could be running a potato sack race with his Receiver and he's still going to throw it.

We all see other QBs throw into tight single coverage a few times a game, giving their Receivers a chance to make a play or draw a pass interference call. What we see a few times a game from most QBs, Brees seems to do with easy regularity.

Just once I'd like to see Campbell throw a ball downfield (doesn't have to be 50 yards either) to a receiver who is covered, and put it in a spot where his Receiver can at least make an attempt on the ball. Right now, he either doesn't make that pass or when he does, it's way friggin off.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Brees is great because he does what most QBs do some of the time all of the time. He consistently finds the single coverage and puts the ball where his WR is going to have the best chance of catching it. The Defender could be running a potato sack race with his Receiver and he's still going to throw it.

We all see other QBs throw into tight single coverage a few times a game, giving their Receivers a chance to make a play or draw a pass interference call. What we see a few times a game from most QBs, Brees seems to do with easy regularity.

Just once I'd like to see Campbell throw a ball downfield (doesn't have to be 50 yards either) to a receiver who is covered, and put it in a spot where his Receiver can at least make an attempt on the ball. Right now, he either doesn't make that pass or when he does, it's way friggin off.

44Deezel, you've never seen Campbell throw or put the ball to a receiver who's covered since he's been a Redskin? I know I have.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

44Deezel, you've never seen Campbell throw or put the ball to a receiver who's covered since he's been a Redskin? I know I have.

No, not really. And I've seen every pass he's made in a Skins uni. And I'm specifically talking about intermediate to long passes. the 10 yard in the middle of the field to Cooley is great. No denying he can make that pass all day. What I'd like to see more of are passes like the one he missed to Kelly on the first play of the Rams game. That's a pass he should attempt whether Kelly has a step on his Defender or both are running side by side. Give the WR a chance at making the play or drawing a pass interference call. Just to be clear, I'm talking about Jason Campbell. The QB for the Skins. Just want to make sure you're not referring to some other Campbell who plays for a college or CFL team.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

44Deezel, you've never seen Campbell throw or put the ball to a receiver who's covered since he's been a Redskin? I know I have.

What hurts me are the balls that are thrown deep toward the sidline.

JC forever edges the ball out of bounds and hardly gives the receiver a shot at actually coming down with it. Even now when he throws deep toward the sideline I call it before it gets there...out of bounds...sure enough. : )

God bless JC but his deep accuracy is treacherous.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

What hurts me are the balls that are thrown deep toward the sidline.

JC forever edges the ball out of bounds and hardly gives the receiver a shot at actually coming down with it. Even now when he throws deep toward the sideline I call it before it gets there...out of bounds...sure enough. : )

God bless JC but his deep accuracy is treacherous.

Valid criticism. Hopefully, you won't get blasted for pointing out the obvious. Some might think Zorn should have designed the route to be more inbounds or that the receiver should have been able to jump 5 feat in the air or extend their arm 5 yards out of bounds to make a one-handed catch

Or maybe he's just trying to get a cheerleaders attention.