Problem w/ Cowboys giant screen.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Looking at the 'Skins offensive stats for the first 2 weeks of preseason I notice that from the 2 games played thus far, the 'Skins have had a total of 22 offensive possessions.

And of the 22 offensive possessions only 6 have crossed the 50 yard line into the oppositions side of the field.

So yeah, I can certainly see your concern for punting.

Dude, you are an OL injury or two from having a pathetic offense.

People who live in glass houses...

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Dude, you are an OL injury or two from having a pathetic offense.

People who live in glass houses...

.....shouldn't throw stones. Yeah I know.

But Campbell is 4 for 13 in two preseason games. So I guess it is okay for him to throw stones in a glass house, lord knows he wont hit anything.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

.....shouldn't throw stones. Yeah I know.

But Campbell is 4 for 13 in two preseason games. So I guess it is okay for him to throw stones in a glass house, lord knows he wont hit anything.

touche Sandtrap.

But on the real; do you worry that this stadium, for all its luxuries & engineering feats (aside from the scoreboard), actually will diminish the home field advantage?

I think that standing room only ticket idea is brilliant on one hand, yet may lead to an unruly crowd. The jumbo tron will encourage fans to only watch the screen, then if they leave their seat they won't feel their missing the live game, they'll just watch the screen in the corridors, reducing the crowd noise.

We Skins fans that were blessed to visit RFK in its day know what a great home field advantage it had. FedEx took that away & seems so much less personal.

I went to texas stadium for the skins game in 07 & thought it was a great venue, though ugly from the outside. There were few bad seats in the house. Like rfk the crowd is on top of the action, loud, focused & intense.

I appreciate what this stadium is, its cutting edge & looks great. But I look for cowboys stadium to only be really loud in big games, though I know it was designed to retain noise. Your thoughts?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

touche Sandtrap.

But on the real; do you worry that this stadium, for all its luxuries & engineering feats (aside from the scoreboard), actually will diminish the home field advantage?

I think that standing room only ticket idea is brilliant on one hand, yet may lead to an unruly crowd. The jumbo tron will encourage fans to only watch the screen, then if they leave their seat they won't feel their missing the live game, they'll just watch the screen in the corridors, reducing the crowd noise.

We Skins fans that were blessed to visit RFK in its day know what a great home field advantage it had. FedEx took that away & seems so much less personal.

I went to texas stadium for the skins game in 07 & thought it was a great venue, though ugly from the outside. There were few bad seats in the house. Like rfk the crowd is on top of the action, loud, focused & intense.

I appreciate what this stadium is, its cutting edge & looks great. But I look for cowboys stadium to only be really loud in big games, though I know it was designed to retain noise. Your thoughts?

Been to a lot of games at Texas Stadium, and one thing I noticed is there really is not a home field advantage as far as fan participation.

Never have a I seen an opposing QB call a time out in a 3 and goal because of the "rowdy" Texas fans that get so loud that they cannot hear a snap count.

That is one think I envy about Redskins games at FedEx, fan participation.

All of those "white-collar corporate pencil necks" at Texas Stadium (and now Cowboys Stadium) simply don't get into the action as most would elsewhere.

I have sat in Texas Stadium everywhere from the lower level, to the nose bleeds to the end zones. And everywhere I sit, even I can hear the damn snap count of the oppositions QB.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Looking at the 'Skins offensive stats for the first 2 weeks of preseason I notice that from the 2 games played thus far, the 'Skins have had a total of 22 offensive possessions.

And of the 22 offensive possessions only 6 have crossed the 50 yard line into the oppositions side of the field.

So yeah, I can certainly see your concern for punting.

the titans' backup punter can hit it

your punter couldn't get it that high when asked to

when you guys are in a playoff game and have a chance at winning... wait, nevermind

[dmek25]

why would the league have to foot some of the cost for raising the score board? Mr. Jones was the one who put it in the way. and 2 million to him is like 2 million to Snyder, a drop in the bucket

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why would the league have to foot some of the cost for raising the score board? Mr. Jones was the one who put it in the way. and 2 million to him is like 2 million to Snyder, a drop in the bucket

Because the screens actually meet league regulations and have had league oversight. Some of the blame here needs to be placed on mistaken league regulations.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Because the screens actually meet league regulations and have had league oversight. Some of the blame here needs to be placed on mistaken league regulations.

Yeah, if the league mandates that it has to be moved, JJ isn't going to just pay for it himself, and I don't blame him. (btw, people don't become billionaires by paying for stuff like this to be redone, it's not a "drop in the bucket" as some have said).

It's like the NFL has signed off on it like a bldg. commissioner, JJ et al (town of arlington is at least co-owner?) have complied w/league rules. That's why you do bldg. inspections.

I imagine that the league standard ASSUMED that scoreboards would always be on the ends or side of stadiums, not right in the middle.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why would the league have to foot some of the cost for raising the score board? Mr. Jones was the one who put it in the way. and 2 million to him is like 2 million to Snyder, a drop in the bucket

With Jones constantly bringing up how much the stadium costs you think he'd be thrilled to throw in another 2 million dollars to the final cost tally.


Now money matters all the sudden when you bring up $2 million in REALISTIC dollars and not $1 billion imaginary ones.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

With Jones constantly bringing up how much the stadium costs you think he'd be thrilled to throw in another 2 million dollars to the final cost tally.


Now money matters all the sudden when you bring up $2 million in REALISTIC dollars and not $1 billion imaginary ones.

It would not cost them a penny to raise the thing as it is on cables and can be raised and lowered with a push of a botton or two. I'm sure after a few times of punts hittting it they will be asked to raise it up some. It was designed for viewing at its current level and thats why they don't want to rais the thing up. As it sits now most people in the mid and upper level just look straight out and ther is the screen. People in the lower level look up some and people at the very top look down some. I actually think the thing takes away from the game and people will watch that more then they actually watch the live play on the field. It is nice to have a nice screen to watch after a play but this thing is just to dam big and anoying.

[12thMan]

If Jones refuses to raise it the Cowboys should get an "unsportsman like conduct" penalty everytime a punt hits that monstrosity. The whole thing is hilarious.

[Ruhskins]

I guess we have to wait until either New England or the Giants play there, with so much bitching and whining in their sports media, I'm sure something would be done about (see Brady rule for example).

[MTK]

Not sure it's not easy to just push a button to raise it, unless that button push costs $2M

[dmek25]

the screen will be raised shortly to accommodate a U2 concert. but matty is right. the cost, for some reason, is around 2 million bucks

[CRedskinsRule]

I read that they need 6 winches the size of Humvees to move it; I was not clear whether those are still to be installed (hence the 2million) or if they were installed already and more work is needed in addition to them.