Ocho Cinco In B&G

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Here's the key point. I'd much rather have Chad Johnson's talent and his passion/any tendency to yell at teammates than Reche Caldwell's talent and his complete and total cooperation as a teammate.

We'd win more games with CJ as a Redskin than we would without him.

Hey, if we can find another game breaking WR out there who wouldn't be a problem, I'm all for that. I'm not necessarily married to CJ. But I do think a big move at WR is a wise idea. It would make a huge difference for us.

A big move at WR would make our O dangerous, no disagreement there. I hope we get a good wr & I know it's very tough to draft that position & get any solid contribution for 3 yrs.

Still, as Skins fans we know that bringing in the next star that looks great on paper doesn't equate to wins. CJ is a serious gamble to me, his impact could be huge either way; great or terrible for the team.

If we're looking to trade for a wr, if what's been rumored about R. Williams is true I think he'd be a good pickup.

Anyone know the salaries/cap implications of these guys?

[NYCSkin]

I like the idea of CJ in burgundy and gold--but I think the price would be steep.

I like DJ Hackett of the Hawks. If he can stay healthy, he's ready to break out. His performance thus far in his career show glimmers of stardom. Kinda reminds me of Santana Moss during his tenure in NY.

Hackett would presumably know the Zorn system, would come cheaper, and provide JC with a bigger target. i think we saw some of his potential in the playoff game where some might say he owned Springs...

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I like the idea of CJ in burgundy and gold--but I think the price would be steep.

I like DJ Hackett of the Hawks. If he can stay healthy, he's ready to break out. His performance thus far in his career show glimmers of stardom. Kinda reminds me of Santana Moss during his tenure in NY.

Hackett would presumably know the Zorn system, would come cheaper, and provide JC with a bigger target. i think we saw some of his potential in the playoff game where some might say he owned Springs...

CJ is already under contract, don't know the details. It'd be a matter of whether or not they wanted to re-up on his deal or give him a new one after the trade. hopefully they've learned their lesson w/Loyd.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I like the idea of CJ in burgundy and gold--but I think the price would be steep.

I like DJ Hackett of the Hawks. If he can stay healthy, he's ready to break out. His performance thus far in his career show glimmers of stardom. Kinda reminds me of Santana Moss during his tenure in NY.

Hackett would presumably know the Zorn system, would come cheaper, and provide JC with a bigger target. i think we saw some of his potential in the playoff game where some might say he owned Springs...

hackett is decent, he's got the size we need & he doesn't have the ego (yet) to go w/it.

E. Wilford of the Jags is another decent big wr that is a fa.

[RedZone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If we're going to overpay for someone I would rather see CJ here over Moss.

If what Tom Brady says below is true, I'd have to disagree -- big time!

“Randy and I are a package deal,” Brady said, smiling. “I don’t want Randy going anywhere. I’m going wherever Randy’s going. He goes, I go.”

[Defensewins]

Ocho Cinco and Moss are not going anwhere. Moss will sign with the Pats gladly.
Ocho Cinco will get the franchise tag and the war between him and the Bengals will begin.
We need help on our lines before we need yet another high paid WR.
This is why Snder and Cerrato are not very good at building a solid team. We need to start with our lines. But Snyderato are all about getting skill players.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Ocho Cinco and Moss are not going anwhere. Moss will sign with the Pats gladly.
Ocho Cinco will get the franchise tag and the war between him and the Bengals will begin.
We need help on our lines before we need yet another high paid WR.
This is why Snder and Cerrato are not very good at building a solid team. We need to start with our lines. But Snyderato are all about getting skill players.

I believe that Ocho C is under contract, in fact I believe that's the whole point of his running his mouth to everyone - see JLC's blog. He's trying to force a trade. If he were a free agent he could just let his agent do the talking behind closed doors.

I don't know if I agree w/DS & Vinny that WR is priority #1 (that's what JLC reports) but it is a need. Moss can't make it through 16 games & he needs speed and/or size on the other size. ARE is a good slot reciever but he can't outrun any db's, he's got to rely on his quicknes to get open & he can't always do that. Plus he doesn't have much size.

I love Thrash but he's strictly a role player for depth at this point. Caldwell & Mix; we'll see what happens w/those guys come august.

[Redskin Warrior]

If Snyder wants CJ I be damned if Snyder doesn't get him. Look I would love for CJ to be here in D.C. no one can dictate what Snyder will do but if he is interested and CJ demands a trade it's not much the Bengals can do but franchise him or trade him it will play out soon.

[Paintrain]

I'd embrace Ocho Cinco.. Yes he's a bit of a pain in the butt.. Mooch dealt with T.O. in SF so I think he'd be able to handle Chad with no problem, if he's the coach..

[Campbell17]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If we're going to overpay for someone I would rather see CJ here over Moss.

Very agreeable, Moss has had one good year in the last 4? CJ is a little younger, and puts up more consistent numbers.

[Dirtbag59]

From what I hear Larry Fitzgerald might also be available.

[That Guy]

CJ's would clearly be the best player available... though R moss would be very close (i'm pretty sure he's a patriot for life though, and his attitude goes to crap pretty quick). fitz is good, but a big step below those two (though he'd easily be the #1 here, due to his consistency).

CJ + briggs + kenny phillips (or a DE) is like pulling 3 pro bowlers out of thin air. if it can happen, it should happen. just don't blow our #1 on a 30 year old WR.

[hagams]

I don't care what anyone says, I would love to see him playing for us. He may have a mouth on him, but the guy plays good football. I really think the best coach for him, would have been gibbs though.

[Soup's Uncle]

Do it...Ocho Cinco...trade him for Brandon Lloyd.

[skinsnut]

Ya know....if the price is right, we need a prototype #1 receiver.
That would have a beautiful trickle down affect.
Moss would be a #2
Randel El would be a #3

That is probably where they would excel long term....not to mention the heat it would take off of Cooley.

In either case, we are either going to go for a protype possesion receiver who is big OR we get another pass catching TE....we will need 2 in the west coast offense.

The advantage of a true #1 receiver is that it puts our other 2 in their correct roles for long term success.