Sean Taylor at Free Safety and LaRon Landry at Strong Safety

[JDALY27]

Taylor playing over the top is possible b/c we have Springs, Smoot, Rogers on the corner. Couldn't do that last year with injuries and no names on the corner. This guy Landry was rated higher than Taylor and supposed to hit harder, I'll have to see about that one.

This duo is going to be amazing to watch........

Taylor has his best year as a Skin b/c of this draft pick.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Taylor playing over the top is possible b/c we have Springs, Smoot, Rogers on the corner. Couldn't do that last year with injuries and no names on the corner. This guy Landry was rated higher than Taylor and supposed to hit harder, I'll have to see about that one.

This duo is going to be amazing to watch........

Taylor has his best year as a Skin b/c of this draft pick.

no landry wasnt rated higher and he doesnt hit harder

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

Taylor playing over the top is possible b/c we have Springs, Smoot, Rogers on the corner. Couldn't do that last year with injuries and no names on the corner. This guy Landry was rated higher than Taylor and supposed to hit harder, I'll have to see about that one.

This duo is going to be amazing to watch........

Taylor has his best year as a Skin b/c of this draft pick.

Who rated Landry higher, Stevie Wonder?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Who rated Landry higher, Stevie Wonder?

him and ray charles

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The entire D was a big mess last year, look no further than that for the reason why Taylor struggled. He struggled just like the entire unit did.

enough said, that's a fact.

[724Skinsfan]

The one positive light that Rogers has shown is getting his hands on the ball more than a lot of CB's we've had. Unfortunately, his hands are like bricks. If he can soften 'em up a little bit and create the turnover, then we'll have a very good (not great) #1 CB in him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

The one positive light that Rogers has shown is getting his hands on the ball more than a lot of CB's we've had. Unfortunately, his hands are like bricks. If he can soften 'em up a little bit and create the turnover, then we'll have a very good (not great) #1 CB in him.

hopefully that will happen this year maybe he needs to listen to this song lionel richie- stuck on you

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

His awarness also seems to get him in trouble as well. It is all about read and react. Of all of his assets this is his weakest point of play. This is what gets him beat deep most of the time. He is not aware of what is going on around him. Example: Wild Card 2005 against the Bucs. Redskins 17 Bucs 10. Bucs have the ball 3rd and ten from the Redskins 32 yard line. Ok take a look at Edell Shepard (WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!) going up against Carlos Rogers. Now rewind back to the Bucs/Skins game earlier when Edell Shepard beat Walt Harris for a 31 yard TD to set up the biggest BS call of the season. Back to the playoff game, Shepard runs the exact same route he ran earlier in the season. (for those who cant remember basically the same route Santana Moss ran to beat Dallas for the second TD on Monday night). Ok Carlos gives a 10 yard cushion and then doesnt take off with Shepard until he is 2-3 yards past him. Chris Simms throws a perfect pass and if it wasnt for Shepard dropping that pass maybe we dont get to play Seattle the following week. (Where he had a chance to sink the Hawks early with Alexander on the bench he drops a INT that would have easily go into the End Zone for a 10-0 lead en route to a route.)

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

His awarness also seems to get him in trouble as well. It is all about read and react. Of all of his assets this is his weakest point of play. This is what gets him beat deep most of the time. He is not aware of what is going on around him. Example: Wild Card 2005 against the Bucs. Redskins 17 Bucs 10. Bucs have the ball 3rd and ten from the Redskins 32 yard line. Ok take a look at Edell Shepard (WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!) going up against Carlos Rogers. Now rewind back to the Bucs/Skins game earlier when Edell Shepard beat Walt Harris for a 31 yard TD to set up the biggest BS call of the season. Back to the playoff game, Shepard runs the exact same route he ran earlier in the season. (for those who cant remember basically the same route Santana Moss ran to beat Dallas for the second TD on Monday night). Ok Carlos gives a 10 yard cushion and then doesnt take off with Shepard until he is 2-3 yards past him. Chris Simms throws a perfect pass and if it wasnt for Shepard dropping that pass maybe we dont get to play Seattle the following week. (Where he had a chance to sink the Hawks early with Alexander on the bench he drops a INT that would have easily go into the End Zone for a 10-0 lead en route to a route.)

I agree with you 100% and just wanted to add to your point...The entire premise of playing off a WR and giving them a cushion is to keep the play in front of you and to make sure you never get beat deep. Rodgers was providing that cushion, which allows the underneath stuff to open up, yet still getting beat deep on several occasions.

I suspect some of the problem was coaching and poor LB zone coverage underneath, but no one starting at DB in the NFL should be getting deep on you when you have a 5-10yard head start. Some of the game film I saw showed Rodgers waiting for the WR to get into his break before even turning his hips and accelerating toward the player. By that time the WR was at full speed and no matter how fast you are, you aren't going to catch up. Bad fundamentals overall and not what I would expect from a 9th overall pick.

[That Guy]

1st round DTs don't have a very high bust rate compared to DE/WR/QB. Especially not in the top 15 or so.

I wasn't very happy with the pick either (though i did, surprisingly, get base lib just in time to catch a couple hours of the draft's first round), but it is what it is now. our DL isn't good, but the LBs look alright and the DB depth is truly insane (macklin as a #4, stoutmire as the #4 safety/#6 CB, etc).

thanks for the links. hopefully GW's figured out how to fix a VERY lackluster defense with the pieces at hand.... at the very least he's bumped carlos back the nickel and removed holdman from the field, which is an extra 7 points a game we won't need to score right there.

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Originally Posted by That Guy

.... at the very least he's bumped carlos back the nickel and removed holdman from the field, which is an extra 7 points a game we won't need to score right there.

Maybe even more than 7, most of our opponents last season made sure it was in their gameplans to run at Holdman and throw at Rogers. On any given game between the two of them they could have been responsible for all the points scored.

[Daseal]

Rogers will start and be our #1 by the end of the year. Mark it down.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Rogers will start and be our #1 by the end of the year. Mark it down.

With the way that he has playted over the last 2 seasons, that scares the living crap out of me. No way he is a number 1 corner right now. I actually think that right now he is falling out of contention of being a number 2 cornerback

[JoeRedskin]

The guy is just coming into his 3rd year. Will he ever be a shut-down corner? probably not. Does that mean he cant be a good quality number 1 corner? No.

Give the guy some time to develop.

With that said, this is the year. By the end of the year he is as good as he is gonna be. (3 years in the same system right out of college is not something a lot of players get to experience in this league).

[MTK]

I just don't see Rogers developing into a true #1 corner, but I'd love to be wrong on this. I'd be happy if he could just be a quality #2 at this point.