To 2021 and Beyond .... current politics

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Strawman...it’s not close to being the same

This low-effort shitpost is embarrassing Chico. Why even say anything if you can't come close to a real reason transgender troops shouldn't be allowed to serve?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

This low-effort shitpost is embarrassing Chico. Why even say anything if you can't come close to a real reason transgender troops shouldn't be allowed to serve?

Definitely a strawman, don’t get mad when I point it out.

As a separate issue, people who fight science and/or science deniers are clowns especially when it comes to biological sex. Conservatives didn’t create the only X and Y chromosomes to own libs...yet some see it that way.

This is the concern

To maintain a military force that is worldwide deployable and combat effective, the military must set high standards, and all military members must sacrifice to meet these standards. In fact, just over 70 percent of prime military-age Americans cannot meet the military's standards.

Anyone who meets military standards without special accommodations can and should be able to serve — this includes transgender persons.

Persons with a history of gender dysphoria — a serious medical condition — and who have undergone certain medical treatment for gender dysphoria, such as cross-sex hormone therapy or sex reassignment surgery, or are unwilling or unable to meet the standards associated with their biological sex, could adversely impact unit readiness and combat effectiveness.


It’s not about the person but team...like ball.

[SunnySide]

Tranny rights are just setting up the precedent for AI rights.

its coming.

[MTK]

Anyone that wants to serve should have the right.

[BaltimoreSkins]

They were already serving we were just putting our heads in the sand thinking they are magically going to pop up now in 2021. Now they can just be themselves. No big deal.

[CRedskinsRule]

Republicans need to court all members of our society, and stop with the identity politics in the armed forces.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Republicans need to court all members of our society, and stop with the identity politics in the armed forces.

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I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't!

LOL, the three of you are exactly what trump was looking for .

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, the three of you are exactly what trump was looking for .

Say anything G1 doesn't like, G1 immediately Trump shames you. He isn't president anymore. I moved on in November. These type comments have zero meaning to me. You do you baby!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Say anything G1 doesn't like, G1 immediately Trump shames you. He isn't president anymore. I moved on in November. These type comments have zero meaning to me. You do you baby!

LOL. keep lying to yourself. You ,chico and cred aren't close to moving on.........all three of you are still in mourning. You can say what you want but your posts say different.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't!

1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit. It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.

Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit. It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.

Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.

A lot to unpack here if I had all day to respond piece by piece.

Commenting on it is not the same as "whoaing" over it. Didn't say liberals weren't called names.

I literally said "we", as in including myself, when talking about conservatives, you even commented on it.

Then at the end of your post, you accuse me of saying that I use being a libertarian to pretend like I'm smarter than anyone and talking everyone about everyone from my glass house. Is SunnySide having cake and eating it too? I am not smarter than anyone here. I'm conservative 1st and libertarian 2nd.

I can't be? Lol. Yes sir. Thanks for clarifying for me what I can think. I'll re-register again asap. I'll have to register as independent or create my own party then, so I can think freely for myself.

I never said I'm against anyone being in the military. I merely referenced that even if 100% of all military leaders past and present were against any group being in the military, democrats would still force it anyways, if it was part of their voting block/strategy.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit. It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.

Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.

People who don’t recognize China as an evil, totalitarian government which is responsible for the coronavirus, a current genocide, imposing slavery and have active concentration camps are simply pieces of shit.

If Biden goes soft on China he is a piece of shit and a lying hypocrite. Own it.

Do you support a weak policy on China?

I’m blown away that supposed woke mfer’s would actually think current slavery is fine...it’s hypocrisy at its zenith.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Vote yes on everything, eventually you'll find they're coming for you next, by that time it's too late.

Always support limited government.

Big government has us 20+ TRILLION in debt.

Massive federal government screws all of us. And this was proven true before Trump, and Obama too.

[SunnySide]

"the smarter than everyone else" .. is probably weak projection from me and not about you, more reflective of my own views and issues of the libertarian party. I am a bitter ex libertarian. I apologize for that. Biggest reason was people picking and choosing when to wear the "libertarian" hat and the neo conservative take over followed by the libertarian party going from personal choice to "states rights" on abortion so they didnt turn away all the attention they were getting from neo conservatives bc libertarian party wants numbers more than anything.

I stand by the military report thing though. google the issue. you do accuse us of the exact thing you have apparently done. ignored reports that dont fit your predisposed view.