Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Giants at Redskins)

[SmootSmack]

When I retire, I'm passing the throne to Ruhskins...just because I like the title Ruh the Day

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When I retire, I'm passing the throne to Ruhskins...just because I like the title Ruh the Day

....oh hell NO!!!

[WilbursHomie]

Today we finally looked like a team that will naturally get better as they get older. Sure we didn't look like a super bowl team, but we looked like pro's and played like a team that was all on the same page. Win or Lose, and we will have some bad losses I promise, it looks like there's Pro football back in DC. FINALLY! Dirty 30 is gonna reinvent the concussion when he gets back.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

When it comes to the running game, the team seemed to have all of it's success when we ran a 2-back set with Young leading the way whereas all of the oneback stretch plays almost always only gained a yard or two or even lost yardage.

The drops suck as did Gaffney not making a better effort to stay in bounds on that one catch that eventually got ruled out, but they also made some nice catches and ran great routes. Seeing Davis do what he did today makes me even more excited to see the team having both him and Cooley on the field together more and more as Cooley gets healthier.

Overall a great team win especially the effort given in the second half and it was absolutely freakin awesome seeing a couple of the rookies making their presence known right out of the gate.

[ethat001]

Great game, feels wonderful to beat the Giants (or anyone for that matter).

Here's the question. How long does it take for a left tackle to get up to speed? Here's what Ryan Clady did his first two years:

Clady finished third in voting behind Matt Ryan and Chris Johnson for the 2008 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year Award.[9] He was the only offensive lineman to receive any votes. Clady started every game during the 2008 NFL season and gave up just a half of a sack while committing only three penalties.[10]

After the Broncos' October 4, 2009 victory over the Dallas Cowboys, Clady set a new NFL record for consecutive games to start a career without giving up a full sack. Through 20 games, he has surrendered only one half of a sack.[13]

So my point is, it is just one game, and too early to say anything about TW. But he has looked overmatched repeatedly over the past year and preseason/week 1. We should give him the benefit of the doubt, but it concerns me. Starting to wonder whether we need to switch him and J.Brown, and/or draft a new LT. Again, I'll give him the entire year to settle into his role first...

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Great game, feels wonderful to beat the Giants (or anyone for that matter).

Here's the question. How long does it take for a left tackle to get up to speed? Here's what Ryan Clady did his first two years:



So my point is, it is just one game, and too early to say anything about TW. But he has looked overmatched repeatedly over the past year and preseason/week 1. We should give him the benefit of the doubt, but it concerns me. Starting to wonder whether we need to switch him and J.Brown, and/or draft a new LT. Again, I'll give him the entire year to settle into his role first...

Yep -- I'm beginning to have the same concern. You draft a O-lineman that high, you should be getting a "shutdown" left tackle. By Chris Samuels' second year, he was dominating just about every DE he faced.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yep -- I'm beginning to have the same concern. You draft a O-lineman that high, you should be getting a "shutdown" left tackle. By Chris Samuels' second year, he was dominating just about every DE he faced.

The O-Line needs some work , was T/ Williams a LT or RT at OU ? Still , nice win vs NY .

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by budw38

The O-Line needs some work , was T/ Williams a LT or RT at OU ? Still , nice win vs NY .

He played both at OU.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yep -- I'm beginning to have the same concern. You draft a O-lineman that high, you should be getting a "shutdown" left tackle. By Chris Samuels' second year, he was dominating just about every DE he faced.

Samuels was much more of a technician than TW will probably ever be.

TW just needs to keep working, it just might take him a little longer than Samuels to get there.

[rbanerjee23]

Problem with Williams is, and this was the knock coming out of college, was that he was so good that he never had to work. That's not going to fly in the NFL -- his reports in camp were that he would get beaten and then he would step up and stop the guy. There is no sense of urgency, no desire to be the absolute best game in and game out which is kind of a concern.

[The Goat]

Soooooooooooooooooo fantastic to beat the Giants opening day by 2 TDs!!!!!!!!!!!!! So fantastic...it helps alleviate some of the concerns mentioned...but they're still legit concerns.

- I hope Trent has an injury I/we don't know about. He looks worse than Heyer on a typical day. His footwork is terrible so he's constantly off balance. He seems to miss on a lot of (basic) reads. I don't know what to thing?
The rest of the o-line is definitely struggling in both pass protection and run-blocking but as mentioned this is a new group that had little time to gel. I have faith it will get better, but Trent needs to get a lot better!!

- Gano.

- Secondary. Unless this group improves the better air attacks will eat us up!!!

[rypper11]

The drops were the worst thing for me Yes the OLine struggled in some of the blitz pickups but the Giants would have stopped bringing as much if the WR would have made them pay by holding on to the catch.
It hasn't been touched yet, but Paul's muffed punt was almost disastrous. If his assignment is to catch a short punt, he has to learn to faircatch when guys are that close or get out of the way.

[skinsguy]

This is the way I see things: no matter what the situation is, who's out, who's in, it's NFC East football. It seems like no matter how good we are, the Giants always seem to traditionally play pretty well against us even if it's just for a half. Let's keep in mind that it's going to take a few games for this offensive line to gel into one cohesive unit. I didn't like how much pressure Grossman faced, but he played pretty well and made the big plays when the 'skins needed them. I would also like to see Armstrong become a little more aggressive when catching the ball. There are going to be times throughout the season where he is going to have to wrestle the ball away from the defender - can't expect to just catch the passes that are non-contested.

Still, we beat the Giants and we have our first victory of the NFC East. Let's not downplay that fact.

[skinsfan69]

What the hell is up w/ Gano? Had a great pre season and comes out and misses a 39 yarder??? C'mon Gano. Plus you costed me 3 in fantasy!

[Chico23231]

1. Oline protection was inconsistent, with bad beats on Silverback, Lichingwhatever, and Brown
2. Saftey play was horrible
3. Like to run the ball inside more with our guys, and think we could have.
4. Really bad drops by Armstrong and Gaffney...and the bonehead didnt get both feet down by Gaffney was a mental mistake.

Overall not bad...the second half was probably the best effort by the team in awhile. Really proud of the play by Rex and the entire defense.