The Haskins Threat 2.0

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

All free agent TEs are good, not very good nor elite. In my opinion, only Kittle, Kelce and Ertz are in the elite category. I agree with all other points, although Turner is unknown at this point so I'm in wait and see mode with Turner. From what I have read about Turner, it seems like he did well with Newton so I'm excited to see what Turner will bring to the table.

What do you thing about Hooper? Many consider him to be the BEST TE FA. He will be expensive. I’d put Henry in the elite category but be my be franchised. Ertz is definitely a step down from those two.


Also, I think the Redskins may bring in Greg Olsen on a one-year contract. He’s good and will be a mentor.


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[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Warthog

What do you thing about Hooper? Many consider him to be the BEST TE FA. He will be expensive. I’d put Henry in the elite category but be my be franchised. Ertz is definitely a step down from those two.


Also, I think the Redskins may bring in Greg Olsen on a one-year contract. He’s good and will be a mentor.


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Did you meant to ask me what I think of Hooper? If so, I think he is a little above average player (in other words, good in general) but he is not one of the best TEs. I once mentioned in different thread that I didn't watch a lot of Falcons games last year so I might not be best person to judge Hooper's skills but I do follow all players throughout years (for fun and fantasy football purposes). It took Hooper a while to get to the point where he is today although, it seems like Hooper worked hard to reach to that point so I will give him some credits for it. I wouldn't be upset if Redskins sign Hooper, after all, we need two new TEs in worst way now that Turner have confirmed that TE is really important piece in his offense.

Let's imagine NFL is a league where all teams have to drop their players in every offseason and all players are free to sign with whoever they want to play for. Where do you think Hooper would rank at? I personally think Hooper would rank in top 10 but I'm not sure about the top 5. Hooper is best TE out of all FA TEs, if we assume Henry will be resigned or franchise tagged.

I'm not oppose to the idea of signing Olsen, as long as we don't plan to rely him to be #1 TE for Redskins.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Did you meant to ask me what I think of Hooper? If so, I think he is a little above average player (in other words, good in general) but he is not one of the best TEs. I once mentioned in different thread that I didn't watch a lot of Falcons games last year so I might not be best person to judge Hooper's skills but I do follow all players throughout years (for fun and fantasy football purposes). It took Hooper a while to get to the point where he is today although, it seems like Hooper worked hard to reach to that point so I will give him some credits for it. I wouldn't be upset if Redskins sign Hooper, after all, we need two new TEs in worst way now that Turner have confirmed that TE is really important piece in his offense.



Let's imagine NFL is a league where all teams have to drop their players in every offseason and all players are free to sign with whoever they want to play for. Where do you think Hooper would rank at? I personally think Hooper would rank in top 10 but I'm not sure about the top 5. Hooper is best TE out of all FA TEs, if we assume Henry will be resigned or franchise tagged.



I'm not oppose to the idea of signing Olsen, as long as we don't plan to rely him to be #1 TE for Redskins.

I’d say Hooper is “very good”,with players such as Ertz with the Eagles as being in the “elite” TE category. But he’s the best there is in the TE FA category this season. I believe he will be one of our first FA pickups. Although he isn’t in category of the top, best TE’s in the NFL, he will make a huge, positive difference to the Redskins.

Last year our best TE’s never played and we had little real production from the scrubs that were left. Having Hooper in there and maybe with the addition of a rookie TE, it will help out Haskins a great deal in the red zone. Hooper will be worth the money for him and will help our offense as a receiver and a blocker.


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[GridIron26]

Just saw this video of Haskins and how he spent his first $1 million. I remember some of you guys talked about how Haskins was being reckless with spending the money but I think this video shows he seems to balance it well. I personally wouldn't spend that much on a car, jewelry and art stuff but then looking back to the days where I was 20 and 21 years old, I probably would spend on some stuff that I would have regretted buying today.

It's crazy to see how much he had to pay for taxes!

https://youtu.be/maCm8b_Ivec

[skinsfaninok]

In his career, Hooper has 13 drops... 282 Targets. That's like 1 drop per 22 targets.. He's pretty dang good

[Chico23231]

Cooley said today on Sheehan pod...there are solid TEs to be found this draft. And you can find a young guy to start and that with TE the learning isn't as steep as other positions.

One thing I know, we need a couple...Free Agency and Draft should be in the plans

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cooley said today on Sheehan pod...there are solid TEs to be found this draft. And you can find a young guy to start and that with TE the learning isn't as steep as other positions.

One thing I know, we need a couple...Free Agency and Draft should be in the plans

Yes, thats where Im at. it seems like you can find versatile 3 down TEs in the draft rounds 2-5 or even UDFA. Wasnt Hooper an UDFA?

I would love Hooper for 10M per but I think he will command more than that and Im not committing a penny more than 10M per for a TE. Id rather find my own Hooper (3R) or Kittles (5R) or Ertz (2R) or Kelce (3R).

I wouldnt over pay for TEs, Gs, C, HB .. those positions can be filled by means other than expensive FA signings.


edit -- dang it sorry guys, shouldnt be talking general TE FA stuff in this thread.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yes, thats where Im at. it seems like you can find versatile 3 down TEs in the draft rounds 2-5 or even UDFA. Wasnt Hooper an UDFA?

I would love Hooper for 10M per but I think he will command more than that and Im not committing a penny more than 10M per for a TE. Id rather find my own Hooper (3R) or Kittles (5R) or Ertz (2R) or Kelce (3R).

I wouldnt over pay for TEs, Gs, C, HB .. those positions can be filled by means other than expensive FA signings.


edit -- dang it sorry guys, shouldnt be talking general TE FA stuff in this thread.

Hooper was drafted in the third round by the Falcons. But who cares where he was drafted, its how he's playing NOW that matters. I think he will go for $10 mill/yr which is less than the money we spent last year for Reed and Davis ($8.5 and $2.4 mill). Hooper may not be in the top 3 TE in the NFL, but he's pretty good and certainly the best TE FA the team can get this season. Right now we have NOTHING at TE, I'm not even sure the guys there now could be TE backups!

Sometimes you have to pay the pipper and that is probably the case with Hooper. Bringing him on and drafting a couple TE's in the draft and UDFA may get us through this season as far as this position goes. We are paying for Bruce Allen putting all our eggs into the Reed/Davis basket for a couple of years in a row. We definitely need at least one good TE to help Haskins this season and I hope we can get Hooper for that spot - plus getting a young player using Kyle Smith's magic drafting power.

[GridIron26]

Not exactly the big news, nonetheless it is still a good one especially for those fans who still have doubts about Haskins. Haskins will work with WRs in Fla during the offseason. Also, Kyle Smith is excited about Haskins.

https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...-for-workouts/

[TheMalcolmConnection]

It's one of those things I love to hear, but hopefully it's not a "let's throw around in shorts for thirty minutes, then hit South Beach" kind of things.

[mooby]

Gotta say, I am pleasantly surprised to find nobody in here overreacting about the Skins interviewing Burrow and Tua.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Gotta say, I am pleasantly surprised to find nobody in here overreacting about the Skins interviewing Burrow and Tua.

nobody should have a problem with it. I think Kyle Smith said they are gonna meet with 45 guys total.

[skinsfaninok]

“No, talking to Tua is you talk to Tua, which I’ve had an opportunity to do,” Rivera said. “Everything is an option. We’re not closing the door on anything. One of the things Kyle and I talked about is you have to go through this process. You don’t know. You don’t know what’s going to happen in front of you. You don’t know what’s going to happen with you, so we’re going to go through and. Tua is one of the guys we’re bringing in. Just so everybody knows. We’re bringing in (Joe) Burrow, we’re bringing in Tua, and we’ll see both of their workouts. That’s just the way it is. You just don’t know, so we’re going to prepare, we’re going to get ourselves ready, we’re going to, obviously, look at some of the other players. We’re going to look at Chase; we’re going to look at the corners, we’re going to look at everybody.”

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

“No, talking to Tua is you talk to Tua, which I’ve had an opportunity to do,” Rivera said. “Everything is an option. We’re not closing the door on anything. One of the things Kyle and I talked about is you have to go through this process. You don’t know. You don’t know what’s going to happen in front of you. You don’t know what’s going to happen with you, so we’re going to go through and. Tua is one of the guys we’re bringing in. Just so everybody knows. We’re bringing in (Joe) Burrow, we’re bringing in Tua, and we’ll see both of their workouts. That’s just the way it is. You just don’t know, so we’re going to prepare, we’re going to get ourselves ready, we’re going to, obviously, look at some of the other players. We’re going to look at Chase; we’re going to look at the corners, we’re going to look at everybody.”

Great quote. What RR said is the meaning of the phrase "due diligence". I'm very happy to hear that the Redskins leadership is putting in the work to do a thorough job. My confidence in RR is growing.

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

“No, talking to Tua is you talk to Tua, which I’ve had an opportunity to do,” Rivera said. “Everything is an option. We’re not closing the door on anything. One of the things Kyle and I talked about is you have to go through this process. You don’t know. You don’t know what’s going to happen in front of you. You don’t know what’s going to happen with you, so we’re going to go through and. Tua is one of the guys we’re bringing in. Just so everybody knows. We’re bringing in (Joe) Burrow, we’re bringing in Tua, and we’ll see both of their workouts. That’s just the way it is. You just don’t know, so we’re going to prepare, we’re going to get ourselves ready, we’re going to, obviously, look at some of the other players. We’re going to look at Chase; we’re going to look at the corners, we’re going to look at everybody.”

I like what I am hearing!

Maybe the Redskins have finally found some Adults to run the show instead of that juvenile Bruce Allen.

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