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View Poll Results: Who Do You Want Starting at QB Opening Day? | |||
John Beck |
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123 | 73.65% |
Rex Grossman |
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44 | 26.35% |
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#61 |
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
Given the circumstances that have changed since then, no, I don't think you can put much value on those opinions from back then.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
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Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny Last edited by Lotus; 08-24-2011 at 01:44 PM. |
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
Grossman, Beck will be a very unexciting check down machine which I am not prepared for.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
I would happily take some boring, unexciting wins over some super exciting, adrenaline pumping losses
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
As opposed to Mr. Long Ball McNabb from last year who go us sooo far.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
Ok, back with a beginner wondering: why does it seem unthinkable to have two quaterbacks? I mean, for example, Beck would be the stater, he'd play a lot more than Grossman, BUT, no one would be upset if at the end of some matches Grossman comed on the field for the last 10 minutes. Or if Beck has a little injury which doesn't necessarily prevent him from playing, Shannahan would make the decision to let Grossman start a game or two and let Beck come back when he's feeling better. Or, "hey this week at practice Grossman was better than Beck, he'll start next game, maybe next week Beck will be more in it at practice..."
I know this question will seem very very strange to football fans, but we see a lot of this in Rugby, at the higher level, and I think it's a good thing because it takes drama out of players' shoulders, they no longer pray for the other one to hurt himself, and it makes the competition for the job both permanent, more dynamic and it means less tension, and the possibility for both players to work together.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
First and foremost, that's awesome -- a French Redskins fan. Are you legit french or an american expat/american parents but born in France?
Second, yeah we could have two qbs but its better IMO to have one unquestioned leader of the offense whom you want to have the ball with 90 seconds left to drive down the field and win the game.
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Hard to describe (or compare to football) the situation in Rugby, but each team has a leader of the offense, undisputed starter, but it's no big deal if the back up starts a game because it's a "small game" (which no longer exists at high level) or just because the coach wants to give him a shot. But in rugby, games last 80 minutes and there are very few stops, so you have to deal with players being exhausted 20 minutes before the end of the game because some plays can last several minutes, which you obviously don't have in football (unless if a coach designed a very sofisticated play in which he wanted all elligible players to pitch eachother the ball for 2 minutes to disturb the defense or win some time but I seriously doubt this would be efficient...)
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?
I know I know, but this was a great breakdown of the performances vs each preseason start considering opponent, individual play, etc
Preseason breakdown: Grossman’s Game 1 vs Beck’s Game 2. Sex Cannon dominates 13-4 Steelers. Admiral Checkdown rolls over 4-18 Colts. Mike and Kyle Shanahan’s Jedi mind tricks confuse everyone.
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Here's the deal, NOT every short route is a ****ing checkdown. The checkdown is the LAST or "panic" option in the play. A quick slant or a quick out is not a ****ing checkdown because it's an early read.
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U need one guy and its due more for the rhythm and chemistry of the team. Its easier for the rest of the guys say the WRs on know how 1 guy throws the ball and when its gonna be deliveryed. Same for the RB getting the ball and the Oline getting use to the style of how far one guy drops back oppose to another, how he scrambles, etc. Its easier for the rest of the guys to adjust their game to one guy and creates chemistry and trust. I think it mentally much easier for one QB who knows he is the man and what he expects from the coaches. Rotating doors at starters spots in football just doesnt work as well unless say RB and that done to keep the D on its toes. Rotating door at QB usually turns into a distraction for the team.
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