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Old 03-26-2020, 06:25 PM   #1
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LOL, scouring....good one. One only has to look at trump tweets or his press conferences to see him screw up.
Not gonna lie, I had to google that to make sure I spelled it directly. Don't know that I've ever put that word in print before.
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:03 PM   #2
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Key Points (per the article itself):

The World Health Organization praised the Trump administration's response to the COVID-19 outbreak.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus singled out President Donald Trump for doing a "great job" in leveraging public and private sector resources to fight the pandemic.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/who-...ll-he-can.html



Well , looky here............


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tea...000023392.html

Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook


Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
By Dan Diamond and Nahal Toosi
PoliticoMarch 25, 2020, 8:00 PM EDT
The Trump administration, state officials and even individual hospital workers are now racing against each other to get the necessary masks, gloves and other safety equipment to fight coronavirus — a scramble that hospitals and doctors say has come too late and left them at risk. But according to a previously unrevealed White House playbook, the government should’ve begun a federal-wide effort to procure that personal protective equipment at least two months ago.

“Is there sufficient personal protective equipment for healthcare workers who are providing medical care?” the playbook instructs its readers, as one early decision that officials should address when facing a potential pandemic. “If YES: What are the triggers to signal exhaustion of supplies? Are additional supplies available? If NO: Should the Strategic National Stockpile release PPE to states?”

The strategies are among hundreds of tactics and key policy decisions laid out in a 69-page National Security Council playbook on fighting pandemics, which POLITICO is detailing for the first time. Other recommendations include that the government move swiftly to fully detect potential outbreaks, secure supplemental funding and consider invoking the Defense Production Act — all steps in which the Trump administration lagged behind the timeline laid out in the playbook.

“Each section of this playbook includes specific questions that should be asked and decisions that should be made at multiple levels” within the national security apparatus, the playbook urges, repeatedly advising officials to question the numbers on viral spread, ensure appropriate diagnostic capacity and check on the U.S. stockpile of emergency resources.

The playbook also stresses the significant responsibility facing the White House to contain risks of potential pandemics, a stark contrast with the Trump administration’s delays in deploying an all-of-government response and President Donald Trump's recent signals that he might roll back public health recommendations.
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Old 03-27-2020, 01:29 PM   #3
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

all joking aside ... trumps twitter thoughts today are indescribable. it is just lies or lashing out.

how the fuck did we end up with this guy?
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:12 PM   #4
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

all joking aside ... trumps twitter thoughts today are indescribable. it is just lies or lashing out.

how the fuck did we end up with this guy?
He seems to have an opinion on everything, even in areas where his expertise is a zero on a scale of 1-10. I did think John Kerry's comment about Massie was funny. The part that baffled me about Trump was in the primaries, once Marco Rubio short circuited during the debates Trump became made of Teflon. I would always check the polls and off shore bookmaker odds after every Trump gaffe. It seems after the death of Rubio no matter what stupid crap he did his numbers would stay steady.
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:14 PM   #5
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...CZn?li=BBnb7Kz

Does she ever do anything besides point fingers and complain?
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:42 PM   #6
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Does she ever do anything besides point fingers and complain?
Talk about someone that really needs to just STFU. She is helping to ruin her own party. Bet a lot of Dems even want her primaried.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:01 AM   #7
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

all joking aside ... trumps twitter thoughts today are indescribable. it is just lies or lashing out.

how the fuck did we end up with this guy?
This was fun to watch..................


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Old 03-27-2020, 04:37 PM   #8
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I get that he thinks the media is biased against him and I tend to agree with him. So I see why he uses Twitter to an extent, but he should be posting measured responses and information not just throwing everything and its mother against the wall and seeing what sticks. And no one knows about everything. Part of being intelligent and being a good leader is to know your strengths and weaknesses and relying on your support team to handle things that aren't in your expertise. So basically its perfectly reasonable to just STFU sometimes.
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I get that he thinks the media is biased against him and I tend to agree with him. So I see why he uses Twitter to an extent, but he should be posting measured responses and information not just throwing everything and its mother against the wall and seeing what sticks. And no one knows about everything. Part of being intelligent and being a good leader is to know your strengths and weaknesses and relying on your support team to handle things that aren't in your expertise. So basically its perfectly reasonable to just STFU sometimes.
I don't think that is in Trump's playbook.
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:43 PM   #10
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I don't think that is in Trump's playbook.
No, clearly it isn't lol.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:18 PM   #11
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Some of the crap Trump spews on subjects where he has no knowledge boggles the mind. A good one was the disqualification of Maximum Security the horse that crossed the wire first in the 2019 Kentucky Derby. It was the first time they have taken down the winner of the Derby and it was a no brainer. He blamed it on political correctness, he probably doesn't know which end of a horse eats and which end craps.

Continuing on where he has no knowledge I think auto makers cooperating to help make respirators is nothing but a ploy to game the government for money, like when GM took a bailout and still filed bankruptcy during the last recession, screwing over all their suppliers.

Working in the manufacturing sector for 40 years, while admitting I have never seen a schematic or assembly drawing of a respirator, it is pretty obvious looking at pictures an automaker is about as well equipped to make one as your neighborhood McDonalds. Looks like the main components outside of electronics are molded plastic, rubber and tubing. All of those items automakers like GM buy from their vendors, they do not make them. Most of the electronics on GM vehicles is also purchased from 3rd party vendors.

GM pretty much makes all the solid metal parts like engines, transmissions, body parts and suspension. WTF a car frame and a respirator have in common is beyond me. I can see it now GM will be willing to make respirators for a $50 billion bailout and being able to charge time and materials to make them, as in given a blank check from the government.
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Old 03-29-2020, 10:41 AM   #12
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What our wonderful Politicians did for Us,.......this is a list of just of the break down in the Virus Bill.


Here’s some of the “vital” emergency coronavirus funding items...

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries

$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts

$25,000,000 for additional salary House of Representatives

$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA

$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs

$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development

$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance

$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147

$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148

$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121

9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134

$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162

$40,000,000,000 Responsibility to Workers Pg 164

$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163

$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165

$492,000,000 to National Railroad Corporation 167

$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169

$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172

$5,000,000 Inspector General pg 172

$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175

$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175

$1,500,000,000 Tenant-Based Rental Assistance pg 176

$720,000,000 to the public housing fund pg 177

$100,000,000 For Native Americans pg 183

$250,000,000 for Housing Block Grants for Tribes pg 182

$130,000,000 for AIDS Housing pg 185

$20,000,000 of which goes to one time grantees pg 186

$15,000,000,000 Community Development Fund pg 188

$5,000,000,000 in Homeless Assistance pg 193

$100,000,000,000 for Rental Assistance - pg 198

$7,000,000 enforce the Fair Housing Act - 203

$227,000,000 for grants to States for youth 2 activities pg 80

$261,000,000 for grants to States for dislocated worker

$10,000,000 for Migrant and Seasonal Farm workers

$100,000,000 for ‘‘Job Corps’’,

$15,000,000 for ‘‘Program Administration’’,

$6,500,000, to the ‘‘Wage and Hour Division’’,

$30,000,000, to OSHA

$10,000,000 for Susan Harwood training grants

$1,300,000,000, for ‘‘Primary Health Care’’,

$75,000,000, for ‘‘Student Aid Administration’’,

$9,500,000,000, for ‘‘Higher Education’’,
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Old 03-30-2020, 09:58 AM   #13
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Some of the crap Trump spews on subjects where he has no knowledge boggles the mind. A good one was the disqualification of Maximum Security the horse that crossed the wire first in the 2019 Kentucky Derby. It was the first time they have taken down the winner of the Derby and it was a no brainer. He blamed it on political correctness, he probably doesn't know which end of a horse eats and which end craps.

Continuing on where he has no knowledge I think auto makers cooperating to help make respirators is nothing but a ploy to game the government for money, like when GM took a bailout and still filed bankruptcy during the last recession, screwing over all their suppliers.

Working in the manufacturing sector for 40 years, while admitting I have never seen a schematic or assembly drawing of a respirator, it is pretty obvious looking at pictures an automaker is about as well equipped to make one as your neighborhood McDonalds. Looks like the main components outside of electronics are molded plastic, rubber and tubing. All of those items automakers like GM buy from their vendors, they do not make them. Most of the electronics on GM vehicles is also purchased from 3rd party vendors.

GM pretty much makes all the solid metal parts like engines, transmissions, body parts and suspension. WTF a car frame and a respirator have in common is beyond me. I can see it now GM will be willing to make respirators for a $50 billion bailout and being able to charge time and materials to make them, as in given a blank check from the government.
I tend to agree. I can understand Dyson coming up with something quick not sure how GM builds ventilators and uses its current assembly lines, ones built to build multi ton products.
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:32 PM   #14
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Agreed.

This mother fucker should be judged for his crimes. If not in this life, certainly in the next one. How anyone can still support him is beyond me. There is nothing defensible.
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