Per Adam Schefter: Betts torn ACL & MCL

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

becuase he isn't that good, the only reason we didn't cut him was because we drafted him so high

Really, cut any rookie if they are not starting caliber right away? Ever heard of player development?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Really, cut any rookie if they are not starting caliber right away? Ever heard of player development?

yes i have, but we wasted that pick, barnes would have been there in later rounds imo. i just don't think he is that good and we could have used all those picks a lot wiser in my mind. barnes, glenn, hensen, williams and mitchell, i like mitchell i think he was a late round find as for the rest all wasted picks when we could have drafted lineman, what have any of them done so far, nothing usually they will have a glimmer in the preseason barnes looked like crap most of the preseason and the only reason anyone knows hensen's name is cause he ran his mouth off

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

yes i have, but we wasted that pick, barnes would have been there in later rounds imo. i just don't think he is that good and we could have used all those picks a lot wiser in my mind. barnes, glenn, hensen, williams and mitchell, i like mitchell i think he was a late round find as for the rest all wasted picks when we could have drafted lineman, what have any of them done so far, nothing usually they will have a glimmer in the preseason barnes looked like crap most of the preseason and the only reason anyone knows hensen's name is cause he ran his mouth off

Justin Tryon looked like crap last year...so did Rhinehart, and they've developed. If this team is committed to building the lines, they need to pick up a lineman in the first round. I know that we've had the debates about Orakpo vs. Oher, but that would have been your opportunity to pick up a lineman. But they didn't...and for some reason they went defense for most of the draft.

[Lotus]

Barnes needs greater patience in terms of development. Once we are mathematically eliminated, he might see some time on the field. Let's see what happens then.

[SmootSmack]

I still think if we don't bring back Rogers, Barnes will be starting opposite Hall next year

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I still think if we don't bring back Rogers, Barnes will be starting opposite Hall next year

where does smoot fall in?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

where does smoot fall in?

Where he is now, dropped down below Tryon or gone. I think he's here for one more year. I think Rogers goes (they tried to trade him and Moss last year and I think they will trade at least one this year-assuming an uncapped year). Hall and Barnes start. Tryon is the nickel, and Smoot is the dime.

[JLee9718]

Betts was a good Redskins, and I always hated that Gibbs signed TJ Duckett when they needed a reserve running back before they even looked to see what Betts could do for them. Or Rock Cartwright for that matter. Some of today's problems the Skins are having are directly related to some of the trades and free agent signings Gibbs made. Portis has been one of the worst since he creates so much division on the team.

[SmootSmack]

I thought the Duckett deal was highly questionable as well. But Betts was a problem, as were many other players, under Spurrier. He wasn't a professional in terms of showing up on time to practice, paying attention at meetings, staying late. Portis was picked only a few slots ahead of Betts and some say that's just a testament to poor drafting by the Redskins, and smart drafting by the Broncos. But Betts also didn't have the work ethic his first few years in the NFL. And I'm a Hawkeyes fan so I've always pulled for him, but he definitely put some of his issues on himself.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought the Duckett deal was highly questionable as well. But Betts was a problem, as were many other players, under Spurrier. He wasn't a professional in terms of showing up on time to practice, paying attention at meetings, staying late. Portis was picked only a few slots ahead of Betts and some say that's just a testament to poor drafting by the Redskins, and smart drafting by the Broncos. But Betts also didn't have the work ethic his first few years in the NFL. And I'm a Hawkeyes fan so I've always pulled for him, but he definitely put some of his issues on himself.

You're a Hawkeyes fan? What did you think of Kirk Ferentz and his decision to let the game clock run out for the final minute against Ohio State? If I were an Iowa fan, I'd have been irate.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You're a Hawkeyes fan? What did you think of Kirk Ferentz and his decision to let the game clock run out for the final minute against Ohio State? If I were an Iowa fan, I'd have been irate.

I was already kind of pissed going into that game with them having lost to Northwestern the week before, and then Stanzi being out for the OSU game.

[Paintrain]

I'll be really surprised if a new coaching staff, which has no allegiance or time invested in Betts, would bring back a 31 year old career backup coming off a major knee reconstruction. Especially with Portis, Rock and Mason presumably being here at the end of the season.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

yes i have, but we wasted that pick, barnes would have been there in later rounds imo. i just don't think he is that good and we could have used all those picks a lot wiser in my mind. barnes, glenn, hensen, williams and mitchell, i like mitchell i think he was a late round find as for the rest all wasted picks when we could have drafted lineman, what have any of them done so far, nothing usually they will have a glimmer in the preseason barnes looked like crap most of the preseason and the only reason anyone knows hensen's name is cause he ran his mouth off

And if we drafted a bunch of linemen who were either inactive or sucked, would those be wasted picks as well? Just drafting a whole bunch of linemen doesn't improve the OL.