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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Huge mistake!! CW is a sitting duck. TH hasn’t had the luxury of having Dotson as a weapon, I hope he plays Monday night.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
It makes sense. They are still in the driver's seat for the second or third wild card spot. Heinicke has managed to win a couple games, but not because he's better than Wentz. Wentz is still the better QB, and despite his inferior ability to move around in the pocket, he probably still gives this team the best chance to win.
Personally, I'd like to see Howell. But they aren't going to throw him to the wolves on Monday night against the undefeated Eagles, and he just may not be ready. You have to go with your best option until you are mathematically eliminated. You owe it to the rest of the players on the team. |
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
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Before you say what RR owes the players at QB, it would be informative to hear what the players think about the three of them. Of course I realize that players are highly unlikely to speak up about what they want. Also, I say no to waiting until the team is mathematically eliminated. In my humble, ignorant and probably misguided opinion we already know that Wentz and TH can't get us what we need at QB to be to be a contender. If we wait until RR thinks Howell is ready it will be about three years from now. So, I actually hope we lose four in a row so we can get Howell enough playing time to find out if he could be The Man.
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![]() But I don't know that Wentz would take more sacks than Heinicke if they were behind the same offensive line. Wentz has taken a lot of sacks - yes, but the offensive line was also playing much worse than it has in the past few weeks. Last year in 17 games Wentz was sacked 32 times, while Heinicke was sacked 38 times in 16 games, behind a better O-line. It does seem like the players really like Heinicke, but I would bet that they also know his limitations, just as the casual fan can see them. And I'm not so sure they don't like Wentz just as much or more. I am definitely speculating that the majority of the players in that locker room think that Wentz give the team the best chance to win. I personally think he does, and I think that most people who know anything about football or QB play, and can be objective, will tell you that Wentz is the better QB. I've personally seen enough of Heinicke. Both QBs have their flaws, but in my opinion, if all things are equal (o-line playing better, defense playing better, etc), Wentz gives the team the best chance to win, and the players likely understand that too. Heinicke just throws it up for grabs too much. I get giving your guy a chance to make a play. Sometimes it works out for him because Terry makes a fabulous contested catch, or a referee knocks down one of the three defenders giving Samuel a chance to catch the eyes closed - Hail Mary heave into triple coverage, but that's not going to win you more games than you'll lose. The Howell situation is tough. Like I said, I would like to see what he can do. However, if he isn't ready and everyone in that locker room knows he isn't the best option, that's a bad message to send to the players - who I think are all playing their asses off still. |
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Scott Turner just sucks.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
This was honestly a great game with a bad ending, this game won't hurt when looking back on the season, the fucking loss to DET is going to burn if we just miss the playoffs.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Not even mad about this loss.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Pretty much how I feel. Everything is lame duck until a new owner takes over.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Agree.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
So bad I'm actually starting to like it |
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
LOL Me too
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Ron isn't giving up on Wentz. He's definitely going back to him when he's ready, unless TH just balls the F out and I think we already know he's not going to suddenly turn into a legit starter.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
I believe you but the truth hurts me. I'm just hoping that ,some way, we get to see what Sam Howell has to offer this season.
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Re: Vikings Post-game Thread
Unless TH gets hurt in the game this week, we will not see Sam Howell, Wentz is back after the Eagles game
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