Portis put on IR, done for '09

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I never, ever, had an issue with Portis as far as the athlete is concerned. I will say from 2004-2006 he gave us everything he had. The 2006 season when he was put on IR changed him i think. He became bitter and started sitting out practices. 2008 we really saw him hit the wall physically, and he was on the downhill. People didn't want to admit it. This year, 2009, Portis had absolutley NOTHING left...he played hard and with heart, but his body is broken down after so much abuse and injuries.

His attitude was always an issue here. It was well documented in news articles that Moss was the only player who consistantly had his back. He lost alot of fans when he threw Zorn under the bus last year along with everyone else. He lost player support this year when he mouthed off to Sellars after talking about him behind his back for weeks.

Sure Portis wants to win, blah blah blah....but it's no excuse to take it out on others. I would bet anything Portis, with his gigantic ego, cares more about getting Riggo's record, than any team success. I am not alone in that belief.

That said. Good luck to Portis and his future. I think he will find few suitors in the NFL to give him the money he's used to, plus not make him work out or practice. I dare say his career could go the way of Shaun Alexander's (how ironic, since Portis was so jealous of him)...Best Wishes

I'd say he probably got tired of being a blocking power back. He'd allude to that as well saying things like (paraphrased) "I don't get hurt running the ball, my injuries have come from blocking and tackling guys on turnovers, if they want me to be healthier they can have me stop doing those things"

I think that it says a lot how well he worked out for us considering the type of switch that he had to do and that he still went and gave it 100% on his blocks. The question is how much longer can he work out for us? I don't think that we cut him unless we see in preseason that he can't do it.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Man look, let Portis compete in training camp next year for the starting spot. I think he would win. I believe in him and think he had an off year and has atleast two or three more 1400 yard seasons in him. Emmitt Smith lost some of his explosiveness, but still played 7 more years.

Fact: Portis hates preseason. However this is the time for players to get back into football shape, learn the plays, and build cohesiveness with teamates. Portis belives it's over rated.

Fact: It takes 2-4 games before Portis is even playing at the level he should be playing at. Mostly due to his lack of preseason playing time.

Fact: Portis is getting older. As well as Betts and Rock. All, if they had it, are losing their elusiveness.

Fact: Portis doesn't like something he runs to Daddy Snyder and all is made well. Not something you want from a team player.

Fact: He's had his injuries mostly in these last few years. Which is a part of getting old.

Fact: Some idiot gave him a huge player friendly contract. If there is no CAP this year coming up we would be wise to get rid of his contract. As well with all the others...ie; Samuels.

Fact: He has not run the same the last 3 years. Originally he was a shifty RB. Brought in and asked to gain weight by Gibbs to become his power back. To only decide after Gibbs he wanted to lose the weight to try and get back to his elusiveness, which has not worked out for him. He's a better power between the tackles type of runner. Now with his concussion he might not even be worth keeping for that roll cause they take some hits in the trenches.

Fact: He should simply find a way to cut bait and turn to being a media guys somewhere. ESPN, NFL network, maybe Reskins Nation especially since I don't watch that anymore he might bring people back to watching the show if he simply did interviews with players on the field or in the locker room or while working out.

[SmootSmack]

"It's really an honor," said Portis, who leads the NFL this year with 643 yards. "You get a league MVP, a guy who's had success and touchdown records and everything else. I want to know how you get 28 touchdowns [in a season], so who better to ask than Shaun? He did it."

Seahawks | NFL | Shaun Alexander joins ex-Hawk contingent | Seattle Times Newspaper

Redskins' Zorn reprimands Portis | Truth & Rumors | FanNation

[davy]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

but you did call one of the best players on this team in the past decade one of the most over rated, please explain

Portis and I.

I was very excited when I heard we had signed Portis, I'd seen the Denver highlight reels and read the glowing appraisals.

However, it wasn't very long before I realised that he wasn't all I'd expected. As a running back he was very limited in what he could do.

He was a 'through the hole, one cut' type of back that was ideally suited to the Denver system. Obviously he was very good at pass protection as well.

He didn't have a lot of moves, he wasn't elusive in the open, he didn't have great speed, he didn't break a lot of tackles or run over people, as a pass catcher he was ordinary at best and in short yardage situations he was poor.

He was also a whiner. I think it was his 3rd or 4th game here when he started, complaining that the Browns defence knew what plays were coming before the snap and I've lost count of the numerous other things he's seen fit to bellyache about since then, and these are just the ones where he has gone public, how much more whinging did he do behind closed doors?

Ironically, if he had stayed in Denver I think he could have broken all sorts of records and be destined for the HOF. As it is I will remember him as just another running back.

Having said all that I do wish him a full recovery from his current problem and I hope he can find something fulfilling to do with the rest of his life should he decide to retire.

[SolidSnake84]

Hey Smoot thanks for posting the articles.

I remember when Portis seemed all happy about Shaun Being here. But it was like his attitude quickly changed.

The second article was a good read. But with all the coverage of that incident, and even Larry Michael talking about it, maybe we all misinterpreted it. But i sure saw the words "Get the F out of my face" on TV. My father in law saw the same thing....

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by OApartyrock

Portis is the ultimate Pre-Madonna. Good riddance. Just another guy taking Snyder's checks to the bank. I want someone to break Riggins record. Just not Clinton Portis.

so he's marilyn?

prima donna*

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Ok guys, I've figured it out. There is a huge conspiracy going on. It sounds like our DR. cleared him but he has to get an outside source per the NFL requesting 2 sources and one being not associated with the team.

Here's the conspiracy.......Portis went to NY to see a specialist. Think....think....we play our second game with NY within the next 4 weeks. Ta Da!

Just Kidding. Always gotta be looking for the conspiracy.

Pittsburgh wasn't it?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by davy

Portis and I.

I was very excited when I heard we had signed Portis, I'd seen the Denver highlight reels and read the glowing appraisals.

However, it wasn't very long before I realised that he wasn't all I'd expected. As a running back he was very limited in what he could do.

He was a 'through the hole, one cut' type of back that was ideally suited to the Denver system. Obviously he was very good at pass protection as well.

He didn't have a lot of moves, he wasn't elusive in the open, he didn't have great speed, he didn't break a lot of tackles or run over people, as a pass catcher he was ordinary at best and in short yardage situations he was poor.

He was also a whiner. I think it was his 3rd or 4th game here when he started, complaining that the Browns defence knew what plays were coming before the snap and I've lost count of the numerous other things he's seen fit to bellyache about since then, and these are just the ones where he has gone public, how much more whinging did he do behind closed doors?

Ironically, if he had stayed in Denver I think he could have broken all sorts of records and be destined for the HOF. As it is I will remember him as just another running back.

Having said all that I do wish him a full recovery from his current problem and I hope he can find something fulfilling to do with the rest of his life should he decide to retire.

that said he finished in the top ten every year (beside 06) in total yards for running backs finishing 8th 4th 6th and 4th respectfully, i still don't see how that is overrated. i see that as one of our best players in the recent past.

was he a diva, no question. did he get the job done, no f-ing question.

i would have loved to have kept champ, but he didn't want to stay and was gone regardless.

for anyone who says protis is a diva and doesn't have heart, and leave it all on the feild, go a head and take a look at the man's stats before you say that. is he done, most likely, would i like to see him back to compete in camp next year, you bet your ass i would. cause if there is one thing i'll say about portis when he has the burgandy and gold on he gives it his all.

[SolidSnake84]

I agree with that post completley. I never, ever, questioned Portis' athletic ability. NO doubt in my mind he always gave 100%, even when his body was operating at only 40% capacity.

But he shouldnt come back next season if the injury is this serious. A 30 year old runningback with major mileage, big injury history, and coming off a potential career-ending concussion. Even Portis, who is madly in pursuit of his own stats, hopefully has enough common sense to not risk his future life and/or health just so he can pass Riggins' record and then retire.

Only way is if he would take a secondary role...but i doubt he'd ever do that.

[dmek25]

all i know about Portis is that when he takes the field, its 150%. i really don't give a damn about practice. we are talking about practice, right? im not sure why you guys care so much about practice. if he goes out, and tweeks a knee, missing a game, then what? he has been with the skins long enough to know whats expected of him. for a seasoned pro, whats the big deal?

[SolidSnake84]

I'd agree with your statement 100% if the other backs would have came out and ran worse than Portis did (which would be hard to do)

But they didn't, because they practiced and had rhythym with the team, something Portis did not have this year at all. Practice makes you better, its a proven fact. In the NFL, even "Seasoned Pros" practice. Seriously...there are not many teams that would let you get by with refusing to practice. And did you seriously see the shape Portis was in this year? He looked paunchy in the media photos and even other people noticed how out of shape he was...I'm sure that didnt help him on the field any.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by dmek25

all i know about Portis is that when he takes the field, its 150%. i really don't give a damn about practice. we are talking about practice, right? im not sure why you guys care so much about practice. if he goes out, and tweeks a knee, missing a game, then what? he has been with the skins long enough to know whats expected of him. for a seasoned pro, whats the big deal?

oh yeah, practice, CP, Allen Iverson & Plaxico. Those guys don't need practice!

the part I bolded says it all; Gibbs may have created this dysfunction by allowing CP to get away w/a lot. But Zorn & most any coach that wants to keep their job EXPECTS their players to practice! During practice, they perform such perfunctory tasks as game planning & conditioning.

[Monkeydad]

Redskins Insider - Portis' future and the salary cap


Portis' future and the salary cap

Many in the league believe 2010 will be an uncapped year, but the current system and its rules still are in place. If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million, according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.

Portis last renegotiated his contract in March 2008, receiving a signing bonus of almost $9.4 million. By the end of this season, Portis, under the terms of the renegotiated deal, will have been paid more than $2.35 million in salaries and bonuses in addition to his signing bonus. Most of Portis's 2010 base salary of almost $7.2 million is guaranteed, and he is also due roster and workout bonuses totaling about $507,000.

The Redskins also have "offset" language on the guaranteed portion of his contract. If Washington released Portis and he joined another team next season, the Redskins would receive a credit against his guarantee for any additional salary.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Buster

If the Redskins released Clinton Portis before June 1 in 2010, they could face a cap hit of as much as $14.8 million, according to league sources familiar with Portis's contract and the Redskins' cap situation.

This seems high to me. I have his 2009 release fee just under $14M but only $8.5M for 2010. His contract's been reworked and restructured a few times so my numbers could be off but still seems like a big discrepancy. I expect his 2010 release fee to be around $8-$10M.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I'm not expert, but perhaps the key is the June 1, 2010 date and if Portis is cut after that, the cap hit is only 8.5MM?