2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

There have been a LOT of Total BUST with top QB picks .. I'm not even sure if it's 50/50 . Remember "Someone"thought Lance was the Guy in San Francisco that was a fail .. yea lucky they got Purdy to soften that blow , and to think every team in league passed on Purdy like 7 times before he was chosen last .. that tells me it's all a guessing game just like this coach search ..I actually could see Sam under different system/coaching being as good as some of these can't miss prospects.. you can't throw a rookie to the wolves in this league and expect good results.. One of these Top 3 Qb will fail you can bet on it !

I’d be willing to say 2 of the top 3 QBs fail and one of the later QBs excels.

The QB position is almost impossible to predict.

You draft them based on their potential and ceiling.

Even a “can’t miss” T Law is honestly avg as hell and has been his whole career so far.

Josh Allen comes in out of no where and is a top 5 QB. You honestly just never know


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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

There have been a LOT of Total BUST with top QB picks .. I'm not even sure if it's 50/50 . Remember "Someone"thought Lance was the Guy in San Francisco that was a fail .. yea lucky they got Purdy to soften that blow , and to think every team in league passed on Purdy like 7 times before he was chosen last .. that tells me it's all a guessing game just like this coach search ..I actually could see Sam under different system/coaching being as good as some of these can't miss prospects.. you can't throw a rookie to the wolves in this league and expect good results.. One of these Top 3 Qb will fail you can bet on it !

Sure but go back and look at the QBs drafted by round:
https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

If you had a to choose a round in which you are going to find your franchise QB which round is it?

You are far more likely to find a good QB in the first than any other round.

Sure there will be busts but your odds on hitting are far better than later rounds. For every Brock Purdy you have to draft 20 Greg McElroys.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Sure but go back and look at the QBs drafted by round:
https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb

If you had a to choose a round in which you are going to find your franchise QB which round is it?

You are far more likely to find a good QB in the first than any other round.

Sure there will be busts but your odds on hitting are far better than later rounds. For every Brock Purdy you have to draft 20 Greg McElroys.

No doubt which at #2 you have to take QB

[sdskinsfan2001]

Definitely 1 of my top 5 favorite drafts I've personally done:

2. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. - CB - Missouri
40. Tyler Nubin - S - Minnesota
67. Patrick Paul - OT - Houston
100. Junior Colson - LB - Michigan
102. Sataoa Laumea - OT - Utah
137. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
180. Nehemiah Pritchett - CB - Auburn
219. Clark Barrington - OG - Baylor

[SFREDSKIN]

We need to find the second coming of Tre’ Johnson (a healthy one) at G. He was an absolute animal when healthy, he mauled people.

[VTSkins1961]

JD reminds me too much of RG3 as far as style of play. If it were up to me, I would take either Williams or Maye. B Johnson (if he is our next coach) will probably want more of a pocket passer but I will support whatever the powers at be choose.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Worrying about Daniels being like RG3 is the same type thing Houston avoided by taking Stroud and not worrying about the OSU QB success in the past. I don't think they're that similar. Don't even think their running styles are that similar.

Really hoping we end up with him.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Worrying about Daniels being like RG3 is the same type thing Houston avoided by taking Stroud and not worrying about the OSU QB success in the past. I don't think they're that similar. Don't even think their running styles are that similar.

Really hoping we end up with him.

The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR

I don't think you can sell a LSU (and Commanders) fan on Daniels either way. You've definitely watched way more his work than me, but I'm still on the train.

Also, FSU was way better than LSU, across the board. And Jordan Travis was a bad-ass college QB.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't think you can sell a LSU (and Commanders) fan on Daniels either way. You've definitely watched way more his work than me, but I'm still on the train.

Also, FSU was way better than LSU, across the board. And Jordan Travis was a bad-ass college QB.

No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom

Thank you! I don't feel any of the QBs are worthy of a top 2 pick, and if we have any takers (which I have a keen idea there will be buyers) wanting our #2 pick then we should swap and load up on picks.

I don't wanna slide down too far in the first round, so hopefully it's a team in top 7.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom

You make an interesting argument for not drafting Daniels. Who do you like at qb then at the 2 selection or a trade down? Daniels is bigtime for production in the SEC, but I do worry about the injury factor and if he can consistently hit NFL passes in tight windows with his arm strength. Not gonna lie. Maye's physical attributes appeal to me. Kid is supposed to have a cannon, is big, and can run. This draft and offseason is going to be fun. Could be seismic for this franchise.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

No sales here, my friend. Born in Bethesda Naval hospital, and raised in Henson, VA. I’ve live in NO and rooted for LSU since Katrina. Redskins till I die.

Only presenting the facts. I wanted Daniels to be the man, he is not.

Great kid, athlete, person. Far from an elite NFL QB.
It would be wise to trade out of the #2 for a Kings ransom

100%

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

The RG 3 comparison is very fair.
Both slightly built Uber athletic QBs that win the Heisman trophy.

I’m a die hard LSU fan and have watched every game. I invite you all to watch both FSU vs LSU games he played. They are the best referral of Daniels game.
You can see how raw, and poor QB skills he has, and how much of a run first athlete he is in the first FSU game. You can see how much he matures over the first year, and becomes a better QB in the second game.

He lost both games. Not only that, he was our played at the position by FSU.

He is a 1 read and tuck it QB, just like RG3. Cannot diagnose presnap read and go through the route tree progressions. He has his hot read and tucks it 9/10 plays.

I understand the excitement, but must present the caveat emptor.

HTTR

Dude threw 40TDs and has poor QB skills?
You are oversimplifying the comparison because they both run.
You said it yourself, he matures over the year and becomes a better QB later in the year.
He has all the tools and is the only QB out of the top 3 that actually played his best last year.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by jamf

Dude threw 40TDs and has poor QB skills?
You are oversimplifying the comparison because they both run.
You said it yourself, he matures over the year and becomes a better QB later in the year.
He has all the tools and is the only QB out of the top 3 that actually played his best last year.

Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure. How many of those TDs were against Army, or Louisiana Monroe?

Oversimplifying, ok. I can except that. But so are you with your “40 TD” stat.