Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[FrenchSkin]

Tell me if I'm missing something, but from what I understand we have more cap space than we've had for the past few years (16M this year, around 53 as of now for next year), so why are we so scared to pay KC? Do we really have a better (or even just slightly worse) option at a better price?

I mean this is not Madden, unless you have a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodger (the real one not his twin brother playing for him this year) caliber guy, you don't just change QB and yyypppeee your team is better. It takes time for the new guy to get in rhythm with his teammates, for his teammates to get in rhythm with him, and for both sides to trust the other.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Tell me if I'm missing something, but from what I understand we have more cap space than we've had for the past few years (16M this year, around 53 as of now for next year), so why are we so scared to pay KC? Do we really have a better (or even just slightly worse) option at a better price?



I mean this is not Madden, unless you have a Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodger (the real one not his twin brother playing for him this year) caliber guy, you don't just change QB and yyypppeee your team is better. It takes time for the new guy to get in rhythm with his teammates, for his teammates to get in rhythm with him, and for both sides to trust the other.

Cap won't be an issue, and I definitely agree that starting over at the most important position would be beyond silly and unnecessary.

[Chico23231]

Way the season is going in Atlanta, Lil Shanny is gonna be a top coaching candidate. I think it was Keim or Mike Jones the other day said this....If we let Cousins hit free agency then he gonna go where Kyle is period.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cap won't be an issue, and I definitely agree that starting over at the most important position would be beyond silly and unnecessary.

I was listening to Cooley and Kevin halfway mark show, and they agreed that the team should sign KC to a long term deal asap, because the more they wait the more they will have to pay. I was thinking the team might want to wait until the end of season, as a way to keep KC under pressure... But they got a point saying the more they wait the more they'll have to pay, don't they?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I was listening to Cooley and Kevin halfway mark show, and they agreed that the team should sign KC to a long term deal asap, because the more they wait the more they will have to pay. I was thinking the team might want to wait until the end of season, as a way to keep KC under pressure... But they got a point saying the more they wait the more they'll have to pay, don't they?

You wait til the season is over to ensure he doesn't bomb the tough second half or have a catastrophic injury. IMO its better to wait with QB.

[MTK]

Pretty sure under the tag he has to play out the season, they can't negotiate a new deal until the offseason.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Counterpoint: Snake, don't go away. If you left the ecosystem of the forums would go out of whack and this place would go dull with all manner of like-minded rational people agreeing on various subjects. Imagine this discussion happening every single day:



Person 1: Kirk is a decent quarterback. He will make mistakes, but his good plays will be enough to balance it out. Let's pay him above-average quarterback money long term so we can focus on other holes on the roster.



Person 2: I agree.



Person 3: I am in agreement as well.



Person 4: It seems we're all in agreement. Toodle-loo!



DAE see how dull and boring that is? Save us Snake! I come here for a mixture of solid discussion and entertainment. And you are a big part of that.

I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow!

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow!

Yeah, it seems like we don't allow ourselves to consider our team a good team. Some mistakes aren't helping us do that, but we have one of the top offenses in the league right now, let's believe in this team, it will develop and become a really good team, the answer is there, not outside the team.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Pretty sure under the tag he has to play out the season, they can't negotiate a new deal until the offseason.

Correct. Can't begin negotiating until after the Super Bowl.

[Schneed10]

On next year's cap, currently it looks like $47M in space and highly likely to create more by releasing DeAngelo Hall and Kory Lichtensteiger which would create another $7.7M in space.

We could afford to franchise Cousins again at $24M and still have $30M to play with. Cap is not a constraint.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Man, hope we do something at DT in the draft. Slim pickings in FA: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/defensive-line/

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I agree. Lol
Sometimes thoughts get lost in translation. Unless it is Schneed - there really isn't more than one way to read most of his posts. "You are a dumb asshole" is very straight forward". Lol.
I am not defending SS either. Just saying that I do not believe he thinks Colt is better than Cousins. I do not believe anyone does. Not on here anyway.
SS appears to be searching for a way that we can save 15 mill to bolster our D, and let a run of the mill qb like Hoyer or Colt hold the fort down until we find another Cousins. Problem is we have Cousins! We can still improve the rest of the team through the draft, and just good old fashioned continuity and familiarity. SS is going backwards instead of forwards. It is a habit that we have formed as Skins fans watching the organization do just that for 20 years. We have something building here. Let it grow!

I do not think McCoy is better than cousins. Not in the least. The mike jones article said that the redskins have "options", and I felt McCoy was one of those options. I want cousins to stay but I do not think the skins want him here anymore. I am sorry if my posts haven't indicated well enough that I think cousins is the answer.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I'm more interested in what you believe should be done. Taking a position, owning it, and being prepared to defend it is an approach that seems to produce good discussions around here.

I think that they should give Cousins what he is asking for. I realize that they cannot negotiate with him until after the season but we need to lock him up for the next 4 or 5 years.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think that they should give Cousins what he is asking for. I realize that they cannot negotiate with him until after the season but we need to lock him up for the next 4 or 5 years.

I agree with you. I think he'll be a solid QB for us for years to come. Even if I didn't think so, I just don't see a viable alternative. The Skins should also keep drafting QB's because you never know when you might strike gold.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I agree with you. I think he'll be a solid QB for us for years to come. Even if I didn't think so, I just don't see a viable alternative. The Skins should also keep drafting QB's because you never know when you might strike gold.

amen. that cocksucker was a 4th rd pick. draft away y'all.