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View Poll Results: Assuming Williams goes #1, what are you doing at #2
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Old 01-11-2024, 10:56 AM   #646
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Re: 2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

Traded down to 8th, and picked up 43rd pick, was still able to get Daniels. That would be awesome.

8. Jayden Daniels - QB - LSU
36. Troy Fautanu - OG - Washington
40. J.T. Tuimoloau - EDGE - Ohio State
43. Jordan Morgan - OT - Arizona
67. Jaylan Ford - LB - Texas
96. Michael Pratt - QB - Tulane
98. Brandon Coleman - OG - TCU
132. Drake Nugent - OC - Michigan
163. Dallin Holker - TE - Colorado State
194. Tatum Bethune - LB - Florida State
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Old 01-11-2024, 11:41 AM   #647
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I just want to end up with Maye or Daniels. Whatever processes that go down to make that happen, is good by me.
IMO Maye is a three inches taller version of Sam Howell, if that's what you want.

Caleb Williams is a stunning playmaker. He is easily the best QB in this draft IMO. I would trade up to the #1 pick to get him. Put lifts in his cleats and tailor the offense to his strengths.

Commanders get: 2023 overall #1 pick.

Bears get: 2023 overall #2 pick, a 2023 second round pick, DT Jonathan Allen, and a 2024 second round pick or even a 2024 first round pick, if necessary.
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Old 01-11-2024, 11:54 AM   #648
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IMO Maye is a three inches taller version of Sam Howell, if that's what you want.

Caleb Williams is a stunning playmaker. He is easily the best QB in this draft IMO. I would trade up to the #1 pick to get him. Put lifts in his cleats and tailor the offense to his strengths.

Commanders get: 2023 overall #1 pick.

Bears get: 2023 overall #2 pick, a 2023 second round pick, DT Jonathan Allen, and a 2024 second round pick or even a 2024 first round pick, if necessary.
It will be an interesting conversation for the next 105 days. I'm either going to be very right or very wrong about Williams.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:14 PM   #649
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IMO Maye is a three inches taller version of Sam Howell, if that's what you want.

Caleb Williams is a stunning playmaker. He is easily the best QB in this draft IMO. I would trade up to the #1 pick to get him. Put lifts in his cleats and tailor the offense to his strengths.

Commanders get: 2023 overall #1 pick.

Bears get: 2023 overall #2 pick, a 2023 second round pick, DT Jonathan Allen, and a 2024 second round pick or even a 2024 first round pick, if necessary.
That's too much to move to #1 from #2. They'll get better offers I know, but I'm not doing that.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:15 PM   #650
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Did we not learn anything about Head cases from Haskins .. Williams is a HUGE Risk from a maturity aspect.. I don't know Jack about him but if you start reading from those who make a living at these sort of things there are indeed "Red Flags" concerning these issues . Can we afford to take that chance ? I'm not sure we can .. I've gotta trust that whoever makes this pick has done the homework and won't botch this .. we got ONE shot at this ! These concerns are no more or less convincing than to say Maye is a taller version of Howell .That is not at all accurate..
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Old 01-11-2024, 08:56 PM   #651
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What I wonder, is how the new FO will handle college scouting. Did our current scouts do enough or were they part of the issue with our poor drafting? Will the new FO bring in their own people ASAP, or will they have to rely on whatever quality the previous regime used? It is a lot to get right, and solid organizations have a functional and efficient scouting corps. My guess is that we did not.
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What I wonder, is how the new FO will handle college scouting. Did our current scouts do enough or were they part of the issue with our poor drafting? Will the new FO bring in their own people ASAP, or will they have to rely on whatever quality the previous regime used? It is a lot to get right, and solid organizations have a functional and efficient scouting corps. My guess is that we did not.
I am not going to be surprised if we bring in some 3rd party analytics or if the new GM brings some pieces with them.

I can’t imagine we roll with Ron’s scouting department
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I am not going to be surprised if we bring in some 3rd party analytics or if the new GM brings some pieces with them.

I can’t imagine we roll with Ron’s scouting department
I'd throw all the old notes away. The new staff will have approximately 100 days to build their board. That's enough time. And I'm sure anyone in the running has already started building their own boards.
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I am not going to be surprised if we bring in some 3rd party analytics or if the new GM brings some pieces with them.

I can’t imagine we roll with Ron’s scouting department
Josh Harris already hired Eugene Shen to head up the analytics department. He's one of the best in the business and he's been working here for months.
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What I wonder, is how the new FO will handle college scouting. Did our current scouts do enough or were they part of the issue with our poor drafting? Will the new FO bring in their own people ASAP, or will they have to rely on whatever quality the previous regime used? It is a lot to get right, and solid organizations have a functional and efficient scouting corps. My guess is that we did not.

I was just wondering the same thing. It takes more than one new personnel guy to build a draft board. All the more reason to see this as a 2-year project.


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What I wonder, is how the new FO will handle college scouting. Did our current scouts do enough or were they part of the issue with our poor drafting? Will the new FO bring in their own people ASAP, or will they have to rely on whatever quality the previous regime used? It is a lot to get right, and solid organizations have a functional and efficient scouting corps. My guess is that we did not.
Zero chance the new Front Office will rely on anything the previous regime used. That shit is on its way to the burn barrel as we speak.
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Zero chance the new Front Office will rely on anything the previous regime used. That shit is on its way to the burn barrel as we speak.
You may be right but I wonder if Snyder or Rivera ever had any regard for the scouting reports. Isn't it possible that that the scouting department under the old regime had good people whose efforts were disregarded? I imagine that they may have had the lowest morale of any group in the building - other than all women, of course.
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Zero chance the new Front Office will rely on anything the previous regime used. That shit is on its way to the burn barrel as we speak.
I wonder which scouts sold Ron on his last 3 first round picks?
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I wonder which scouts sold Ron on his last 3 first round picks?
I don't count CY, literally everyone was drooling over him, he was just a straight up bust
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I'd throw all the old notes away. The new staff will have approximately 100 days to build their board. That's enough time. And I'm sure anyone in the running has already started building their own boards.
It is not, most teams in transition will use the resources from the existing scouting staff. Scouting is a year long process, and it'd be ridiculous for the new regime to throw that away and be months behind other teams.

The current scouting staff and probably a lot of the mid level front office staff will be around until the draft. After that they will all be fired.
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