The Sam Howell Thread

[skinsfaninok]

EB isn’t the problem. He’s a pass first OC and we all knew that. He’s making the games fun to watch at the very least


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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

EB isn’t the problem. He’s a pass first OC and we all knew that. He’s making the games fun to watch at the very least


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When you don’t have a balanced offense, it is a problem especially when you have 3 capable RB’s. He needs to use them like that drive were he went 4 straight runs.

[Meks]

12 rush attempts by our backs yesterday in the rain. 51 yards

25 by Seattle ... just over 100 yards

[skinsfaninok]

He will run it more I’m thinking but he also trusts Sam to be a dude and he has been. BRob has been very good too. Maybe EB doesn’t think the OL is good enough to run the ball much.. idk


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He will run it more I’m thinking but he also trusts Sam to be a dude and he has been. BRob has been very good too. Maybe EB doesn’t think the OL is good enough to run the ball much.. idk


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They aren’t and they aren’t good enough in pass pro either. Defenses don’t respect them and they stack the box. Need to have a threat of a deep ball so they back off. Will help the pass and run game.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He will run it more I’m thinking but he also trusts Sam to be a dude and he has been. BRob has been very good too. Maybe EB doesn’t think the OL is good enough to run the ball much.. idk


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It sure seems like he thinks the O-line is good enough to drop back and pass 50 times per game - since week 1 though. I guess he can't see the fact that we are averaging basically 5 yards per carry when we do run the ball.

Whatever, as long as he doesn't get Sam killed... Can't help but wonder though, if we had been running the ball more, controlling the clock more, making less mistakes in the passing game, and not piling up the sacks, if the results of some of these close games wouldn't have been different.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

It sure seems like he thinks the O-line is good enough to drop back and pass 50 times per game - since week 1 though. I guess he can't see the fact that we are averaging basically 5 yards per carry when we do run the ball.

Whatever, as long as he doesn't get Sam killed... Can't help but wonder though, if we had been running the ball more, controlling the clock more, making less mistakes in the passing game, and not piling up the sacks, if the results of some of these close games wouldn't have been different.

Agree. And the problem I have is when it’s been brought up, EB’s like he wants to “be and stay aggressive”. Bro a good run game can A) be aggressive and B) cause more aggressive opportunities in the passing game.

Sam is wasting time with the play fakes with 4 to 1 balance. Also, when your offense line is so bad you have to max protect, u are limited.

While EB and Sam have clicked, this offense needs a lot more work. Can EB continue to develop it? I’m not sure

[Meks]

12 rush attempts by our backs yesterday in the rain. 51 yards

25 by Seattle ... just over 100 yards

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Meks

12 rush attempts by our backs yesterday in the rain. 51 yards

25 by Seattle ... just over 100 yards

And yet the defense lost the game. 26 (27 with the ep) should be enough to win the game. Idc how they score 27 points.

[CapsCommies]

It's hard to separate coaching issues from personnel issues. But here are a few things about Bieniemy's O this year that leave me underwhelmed:

1) our WRs are not getting separation. Even Turner could scheme guys open near every play but he was stuck with Heinicke's noodle arm.

2) the running game. I don't mind being pass heavy, or even super pass-heavy. I also don't mind using the quick game as a substitute for the run game. But our line doesn't block that well in the screen game, either. And many of our designed runs this year have been out of shotgun, which I HATE. We have a big, bruising back in BRob and a line that doesn't run block very well. So why are we running out of shotgun where the back generates less momentum and takes more time to get to the line? Our OL are already losing their blocks by then. If you're going to run out of shotgun, use more RPOs.

3) very few adjustments before halftime.

4) inability to start the right linemen for what, 7 games? Sam taking all those hits and sacks was criminal.

My hot take here is: I genuinely wonder what the O would look like if we kept Scott Turner but gave him a real QB in Howell. Turner wanted to unleash the pass game, too, and did just that in Wentz's first start against Jacksonville. Then he crashed and burned, we went to Heinicke who doesn't have an arm, and Turner resorted to what we ended up with. His other big flaw was marrying the pass game and the run game in terms of game flow, but we just straight up don't run the ball these days, anyway.

Turner lost the locker room so he had to go. But the fact EB yells a lot or whatever isn't prima facie an upgrade. Howell would make a lot of O coordinators look good.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by CapsCommies

It's hard to separate coaching issues from personnel issues. But here are a few things about Bieniemy's O this year that leave me underwhelmed:

1) our WRs are not getting separation. Even Turner could scheme guys open near every play but he was stuck with Heinicke's noodle arm.

2) the running game. I don't mind being pass heavy, or even super pass-heavy. I also don't mind using the quick game as a substitute for the run game. But our line doesn't block that well in the screen game, either. And many of our designed runs this year have been out of shotgun, which I HATE. We have a big, bruising back in BRob and a line that doesn't run block very well. So why are we running out of shotgun where the back generates less momentum and takes more time to get to the line? Our OL are already losing their blocks by then. If you're going to run out of shotgun, use more RPOs.

3) very few adjustments before halftime.

4) inability to start the right linemen for what, 7 games? Sam taking all those hits and sacks was criminal.

My hot take here is: I genuinely wonder what the O would look like if we kept Scott Turner but gave him a real QB in Howell. Turner wanted to unleash the pass game, too, and did just that in Wentz's first start against Jacksonville. Then he crashed and burned, we went to Heinicke who doesn't have an arm, and Turner resorted to what we ended up with. His other big flaw was marrying the pass game and the run game in terms of game flow, but we just straight up don't run the ball these days, anyway.

Turner lost the locker room so he had to go. But the fact EB yells a lot or whatever isn't prima facie an upgrade. Howell would make a lot of O coordinators look good.

this maybe our first quality new member in 5 years, welcome

he has brought more to the site in a day and 7 post then all of Giantone's post

[SFREDSKIN]

Per Keim:

Sam Howell leads the NFL with 788 yards and six touchdown passes in the fourth quarter. He has the ninth highest QBR in the fourth quarter (and second in number of times sacked).

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Per Keim:

Sam Howell leads the NFL with 788 yards and six touchdown passes in the fourth quarter. He has the ninth highest QBR in the fourth quarter (and second in number of times sacked).

He also has 24 Big time throws which leads the NFL

[CapsCommies]

Originally Posted by mredskins

this maybe our first quality new member in 5 years, welcome

he has brought more to the site in a day and 7 post then all of Giantone's post

Lol thanks man, I appreciate it. Glad to be here with a lot of OGs.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mredskins

this maybe our first quality new member in 5 years, welcome

he has brought more to the site in a day and 7 post then all of Giantone's post

Checks my own join date:



And yes, welcome you Commie bastard (CapsCommies). And LOL at G1.