Redskins General 2020 NFL Thread

[punch it in]

I heard Fred Smoot on the radio saying this would never have happened under Shanny or Gibbs and basically blaming Gruden. I was /am confused by that because we are not talking about players we are talking about Snyders underlings.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I normally don’t agree with you but go back to the Mann text; she is being “harresed” yet stil keeps asking the guy to bring her food. That is the smoking gun WaPo had to that warranted this huge article. Weak.

I disagree with you, I think the Mann texts were the weakest part of the article. Santos was the worst, 6+ women and 2 reporters all said he was hitting on them. How did he not think that was going to come around and force him out is beyond me. Gershman and Greene were also bad but it seems like Greene was also harassed by Snyder for being a male cheerleader so some slight sympathy is afforded there. Seems like everybody that knew about it did nothing because they didn't want to jeopardize their careers either.

[punch it in]

Snyder is in charge. He hires these people. He knew about their conduct and did nothing until he knew it was coming out. He has a history of stepping all over people. If he stays than im gonna have a real hard time rooting for this team.

[punch it in]

https://www.sportscasting.com/daniel...d-of-his-team/

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I disagree with you, I think the Mann texts were the weakest part of the article. Santos was the worst, 6+ women and 2 reporters all said he was hitting on them. How did he not think that was going to come around and force him out is beyond me. Gershman and Greene were also bad but it seems like Greene was also harassed by Snyder for being a male cheerleader so some slight sympathy is afforded there. Seems like everybody that knew about it did nothing because they didn't want to jeopardize their careers either.

I was saying the Mann text are weak.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I was saying the Mann text are weak.

Right but that's not the main event. 15+ women alleging harassment is. Only a couple women besides the reporters were even willing to put their name on it. I'm sure the Post wasn't happy about using the Mann story too considering that was open to interpretation of the texts. But when you only have a couple women willing to speak openly about it that's what they had to run with.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It was only a matter of time before the “witch hunt” bullshit started. Lol. All of those women lied! They wanted it!

Who said that?

You have got to be the most insensitive poster on here.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I agree with you guys the Mann text's are the weakest but I think the main point is that he is in a position of leadership on the team and the women were subordinates. I can't speak for your guys organizations but we have annual sexual harassment training we have to complete in mine. The Mann scenario is right in the training program. To me you cannot put yourself in that position ever.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I agree with you guys the Mann text's are the weakest but I think the main point is that he is in a position of leadership on the team and the women were subordinates. I can't speak for your guys organizations but we have annual sexual harassment training we have to complete in mine. The Mann scenario is right in the training program. To me you cannot put yourself in that position ever.

Personally, I refuse to even go out to lunch with the women at work, even in a group. I've been asked and politely declined, citing "Sorry, I have a lot of work to do".

1.) Their word against mine - never goes well for a man with H.R.

2.) Just the appearance of someone that knows me seeing me out with a woman who is not my wife. I'm happily married and 100% faithful. My wife doesn't even care if I would, but I don't.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I agree with you guys the Mann text's are the weakest but I think the main point is that he is in a position of leadership on the team and the women were subordinates. I can't speak for your guys organizations but we have annual sexual harassment training we have to complete in mine. The Mann scenario is right in the training program. To me you cannot put yourself in that position ever.

We also have this. Every year you do the training, pass the test, and sign the form. It's basically liability so if you fuck up you can't say you weren't aware of the rules.

I guarantee the Redskins probably had something similar. Maybe not a yearly form, but when you sign up I guarantee they make you sign something acknowledging the rules. Specifically for cases like this, they will pull out the form and say "see, Santos/etc. signed the form, it's on them for violating the rules." And if worst comes to worst Dan will say he let Allen run business/football ops and it never was brought to Dan's attention. He's covered.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

We also have this. Every year you do the training, pass the test, and sign the form. It's basically liability so if you fuck up you can't say you weren't aware of the rules.

I guarantee the Redskins probably had something similar. Maybe not a yearly form, but when you sign up I guarantee they make you sign something acknowledging the rules. Specifically for cases like this, they will pull out the form and say "see, Santos/etc. signed the form, it's on them for violating the rules." And if worst comes to worst Dan will say he let Allen run business/football ops and it never was brought to Dan's attention. He's covered.

What's the saying? shit rolls down hill?

[Ruhskins]

Wrong thread.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I agree with you guys the Mann text's are the weakest but I think the main point is that he is in a position of leadership on the team and the women were subordinates. I can't speak for your guys organizations but we have annual sexual harassment training we have to complete in mine. The Mann scenario is right in the training program. To me you cannot put yourself in that position ever.

That’s the DS failure. He will spend money on salary cap and people think he spends money but he doesn’t. Anything coming out of his pocket like facilities or equipment or having a HR dept or hiring competent people who require competitive pay ... basically everything behind the curtain is dollar store. We are like the bengals. Hearing reporters talking about the facilities vs other team is embarrassing.

We will never compete with the likes of the Pats. The Vikings just got a new facility so now I think we have the oldest smallest facility in the league.

[Ruhskins]

Some business side of football news:

@JPFinlayNBCS
Big business news for Washington football as Terry Bateman gets named EVP and Chief Marketing Officer. My guess is that means Ron Rivera doesn’t have to answer so many questions on business ops.

[skinsfaninok]