When is Enough ,Enough?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Misleading.

You need to look at the numbers...as the economy has comeback there should be a correlation of less government assistance. While there has been some correction...it’s been much less than it should.

So when targeting able body workers...it eliminates two groups, the elderly and kids...the most vulnerable.

Jobs are plentiful and the ability to get a higher education has never been better...lots of different avenues for everyone.

While it may hurt some of trump voters, it’s again showing everyone is responsible for getting out there and changing their own lives. It’s def ok to need assistance every now and then, but the middle class can’t continue to pay for people who simply don’t want to contribute to society.

Yes your "misleading " spin is wrong on all counts.The fact that you can type that and not throw up after is amazing in it self.

1)The economy is getting better (thanks Obama) but not for the people who are eligible for food stamps , so yeah....BS
2)Jobs are not plentiful and to think so is just wrong and what jobs are available are min wage part time jobs ....again BS
2.b)LOL The cost of an education is still going through the roof and educations loans are not the answer leaving students with decades worth of debt , so yeah more BS on your part.
3) Even here you admit trump is screwing two different victims his own supporters and the middle class in general and it is many of those middle class people that need some help and know people who need that help.

What is funny Chico is you more than any one bitch about false news or fake media and you of all people perpetuate it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Yes your "misleading " spin is wrong on all counts.The fact that you can type that and not throw up after is amazing in it self.

1)The economy is getting better (thanks Obama) but not for the people who are eligible for food stamps , so yeah....BS2)Jobs are not plentiful and to think so is just wrong and what jobs are available are min wage part time jobs ....again BS
2.b)LOL The cost of an education is still going through the roof and educations loans are not the answer leaving students with decades worth of debt , so yeah more BS on your part.
3) Even here you admit trump is screwing two different victims his own supporters and the middle class in general and it is many of those middle class people that need some help and know people who need that help.

What is funny Chico is you more than any one bitch about false news or fake media and you of all people perpetuate it.

1. This is completely absurd...the job growth has been equitable in every sector and that's what has gotten economist excited.

2. I'm not talking traditional College...the availability to learn online, at night, on weekends through community college, trade schools, internships, specialty programs, etc. in communities all across the country...urban, suburban, rural... G1, you really need to open eyes here, why are they shut?

3. Like I said, trump isn't playing favorites when he pulled the farm bill benefits. yes...everyone has to contribute, whats wrong with that?

[CRedskinsRule]

LOL msm showed it's power with this image and it's also untruthfulness:



full fledged fake news, Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother

Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.

Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera's version of events.

I was impressed Yahoo actually posted this as a frontline item. I am sure CNN will eventually put it on somewhere buried.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

LOL msm showed it's power with this image and it's also untruthfulness:



full fledged fake news, Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother



I was impressed Yahoo actually posted this as a frontline item. I am sure CNN will eventually put it on somewhere buried.

So tell me what is the difference between this pic and trumps fake claims about his rally's and swearing in crowed sizes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPZ1UmHEEdc

I all so don't see anything on the cover that says she was ?Does it imply it yes but does it say it, no. The picture makes you assume and that was it's job.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

1. This is completely absurd...the job growth has been equitable in every sector and that's what has gotten economist excited.

2. I'm not talking traditional College...the availability to learn online, at night, on weekends through community college, trade schools, internships, specialty programs, etc. in communities all across the country...urban, suburban, rural... G1, you really need to open eyes here, why are they shut?

3. Like I said, trump isn't playing favorites when he pulled the farm bill benefits. yes...everyone has to contribute, whats wrong with that?

1) BS and you know it!Employers are not hiring,they said they would but have not done so.
2)Again the ignorance you show is staggering , the people he is hurting don't get or can't afford the opportunities you list.
3) this goes back to a previous post where you claim you don't support trump. Everyone must ,no, you said "has to contribute" right , well trump isn't the top 2% aren't the Middle class and the poor are...................chico no matter how you spin to make yourself feel better it's wrong and you know it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

1) BS and you know it!Employers are not hiring,they said they would but have not done so.
2)Again the ignorance you show is staggering , the people he is hurting don't get or can't afford the opportunities you list.
3) this goes back to a previous post where you claim you don't support trump. Everyone must ,no, you said "has to contribute" right , well trump isn't the top 2% aren't the Middle class and the poor are...................chico no matter how you spin to make yourself feel better it's wrong and you know it.

G1 you are just refusing to look at the facts. Im sorry you hate the economy and education opportunities that are available.

I guess you rather rob me and other middle class folks who wake up to go to work every day. Its just easier to be a socialist.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

LOL msm showed it's power with this image and it's also untruthfulness:



full fledged fake news, Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother



I was impressed Yahoo actually posted this as a frontline item. I am sure CNN will eventually put it on somewhere buried.

Good, I'm glad she wasn't taken from her family. Honestly though I could care less if they used a picture of a kid that was really taken or not. That's not the point and you know it. It doesn't change the big picture that kids should not be taken away from their families. All we're doing is creating more people that will grow up hating the US.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Good, I'm glad she wasn't taken from her family. Honestly though I could care less if they used a picture of a kid that was really taken or not. That's not the point and you know it. It doesn't change the big picture that kids should not be taken away from their families. All we're doing is creating more people that will grow up hating the US.

What creates people hating the US, in my opinion, is giving false hope. I know the point that the media and liberals were trying to make, and it was as much a lie as that picture. We aren't putting kids in concentration camps. And if a person commits an illegal act in any US state, they are going to be separated from their kids. We have a legal process for immigration, and every country has an absolute right to establish immigration processes.

As a generalized statement, liberals want pure open borders, and that isn't available by any other country in the world.

I actually support a very generous LEGAL immigration policy, but that's up to Congress to write the laws. I fault both parties, and the past 2 presidents in not dealing with this issue. I think Trump made a reasonable effort to establish 4 basic guidelines and told Congress to work it out. Congress hasn't been able to work out anything, and in the case of the House, the Republicans just want to bicker rather than pass any effective measure.

[MTK]

Is it ok if even one child is not reunited with their family?? I say no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4fd0326d2309

A lot of these kids are going to be fucked up

The long-lasting health effects of separating children from their parents at the U.S. border

We're talking about children here folks, we need to be doing the right thing, this is not it

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Good, I'm glad she wasn't taken from her family. Honestly though I could care less if they used a picture of a kid that was really taken or not. That's not the point and you know it. It doesn't change the big picture that kids should not be taken away from their families. All we're doing is creating more people that will grow up hating the US.

So as long as falsifying the means to get to the ends its just fine?

Don't you think some sort of context should be added to get an accurate report to the readers? A Time story recounting the photographer’s experience initially stated the girl was carried away screaming by border agents, and later corrected the article to say that the two were taken away together

They had to correct it...because it was certainly fake news. And they exploited the picture for political gains. SHAMEFUL

And you do understand where there is an issue with fake news? Major publications are participating in it (such as this)...and your ok with it as long as it supports the image you like.

This whole immigration was a fuckin dog and pony show and the left bought it.

Its been confirmed Obama separated families, its been confirmed these detention centers are years old and not brand new, built for the Trump policy, its been confirmed approx. 80% of children are sent alone without parents to travel long distances with cartel supported, human trafficking networks.....YET ZERO PROBLEM BEFORE THE DOG AND PONY SHOW.



Where the fuck is Mexico in this, oh their complicit as usual because remittance to support their economy is their only fucking concern. fuck the kids, fuck the human traffickers...that perfectly fine with them. You talk about a heartless government...Mexico is tops on that list.

[MTK]

I don't care who's watch this shit started on, it's in Trump's lap now, and it's his dumpster fire to fix.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

G1 you are just refusing to look at the facts. Im sorry you hate the economy and education opportunities that are available.

I guess you rather rob me and other middle class folks who wake up to go to work every day. Its just easier to be a socialist.

Ahhhhh here we go,LOL...poor poor me.You are allowing trump to screw over the lower and middle class all becuase it does not directly affect you(supposedly)! I refuse to look at "alternative facts" or as the real word calls them ....lies. Seems that is all you live by.

Please post where it is I said I "hate the economy and the education opportunities available"? Again a great example of you and your trump like "alternative facts".

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So as long as falsifying the means to get to the ends its just fine?

Don't you think some sort of context should be added to get an accurate report to the readers? A Time story recounting the photographer’s experience initially stated the girl was carried away screaming by border agents, and later corrected the article to say that the two were taken away together

They had to correct it...because it was certainly fake news. And they exploited the picture for political gains. SHAMEFUL

And you do understand where there is an issue with fake news? Major publications are participating in it (such as this)...and your ok with it as long as it supports the image you like.

This whole immigration was a fuckin dog and pony show and the left bought it.

Its been confirmed Obama separated families, its been confirmed these detention centers are years old and not brand new, built for the Trump policy, its been confirmed approx. 80% of children are sent alone without parents to travel long distances with cartel supported, human trafficking networks.....YET ZERO PROBLEM BEFORE THE DOG AND PONY SHOW.



Where the fuck is Mexico in this, oh their complicit as usual because remittance to support their economy is their only fucking concern. fuck the kids, fuck the human traffickers...that perfectly fine with them. You talk about a heartless government...Mexico is tops on that list.

I love how that you expect no mistakes, you expect perfection ,you expect more from the media than you do your president,you need to sit back and reflect on that.You make accusations that Obama did this ,so your saying Obama was doing this and Republicans sat on it,I don't understand I thought it was you contention Obama was soft on illegal immigration ,what is it?You say confirmed please post a reliable link?You know for a guy who claims he doesn't like or support trump you sure as hell defend everything he does.........a lot.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Is it ok if even one child is not reunited with their family?? I say no.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4fd0326d2309

A lot of these kids are going to be fucked up

The long-lasting health effects of separating children from their parents at the U.S. border

We're talking about children here folks, we need to be doing the right thing, this is not it

OH NO IT"S DA CHILDREN

The liberals last line of defense - you are gonna hurt da children.

Then tell the countries not to encourage illegal migration here. Tell them to actually use the foreign aid we send them to help improve their countries. Again, no other country just allows open ended migration into theirs at the rate that comes across our borders. Germany might be the closest, but they have strict rules and conditions for anyone entering.

Take a child and try to enter illegally in France or Italy and see what happens.

This is from Pres Obama's term:


Again, the liberal lies and hyperbole around this subject only serve to inflame the more severe elements in the Republican party. You can't demonize one side or the other and expect to have rational debate that results in sound policy. The republicans tried it around the Affordable Care Act, and democrats are trying it here.

There are ways to solve this problem, but saying ITS DA CHILDREN simply prevents adults from acting responsibly.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't care who's watch this shit started on, it's in Trump's lap now, and it's his dumpster fire to fix.

Trumps dumpster fire - Obama's economy.

Gotta love liberals