Cooley Drops Bomb on Haynesworth

[skinsfan69]

AH and the Redskins are both to blame. The Redskins were stupid to outbid everyone for a guy with serious questionable character. AH is a POS for basically taking the money and doing nothing when he got here. Yeah someone else would've signed him...Tampa and the Giants were in the running, but there was no way Snyder was going to get outbid. If you play with a snake long enough you will get bitten...and Snyder got bit for 33 million. Lessons learned.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

AH and the Redskins are both to blame. The Redskins were stupid to outbid everyone for a guy with serious questionable character. AH is a POS for basically taking the money and doing nothing when he got here. Yeah someone else would've signed him...Tampa and the Giants were in the running, but there was no way Snyder was going to get outbid. If you play with a snake long enough you will get bitten...and Snyder got bit for 33 million. Lessons learned.

The Haynesworth we outbid everyone for was the reigning Defensive Player of the Year, a 2-time Pro-Bowler and 2 time All Pro. He also scored bonus points for stomping a Dallas Cowboy.

Questionable character, yes, that is not debatable. He has always been a scumbag. You can't blame the Redskins for what he gave us ON the field though. We paid for the most dominant defensive lineman in the league at the time and he never showed up.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Because you kept leaving your house unlocked and people kept walking in and stealing time and time again. Your negligence is a contributing factor. It was a culture. It had to change and it has.

Wait ... so stealing from stupid people is okay? The justification "Everybody else is profiting by deceit/fraud/bad faith, it would be stupid for me not do it as well" is a morally valid argument to you??

I dunno Chico, you seem like a nice guy, but it is clear you and I have a very different concept of right and wrong.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wait ... so stealing from stupid people is okay? The justification "Everybody else is profiting by deceit/fraud/bad faith, it would be stupid for me not do it as well" is a morally valid argument to you??
I dunno Chico, you seem like a nice guy, but it is clear you and I have a very different concept of right and wrong.

Your shifting the arguement and i didnt say stealing was ok. Im saying blame lies with stupid in the context of this business. The red flags were waving and the history of negligence with Vinny/Danny...? I dont see right on any side of this issue.

[FRPLG]

I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.

Well he's had plenty of off the field incidents as well to support the awful person theory.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well he's had plenty of off the field incidents as well to support the awful person theory.

You mean you're not supposed to feel up random waitresses? Dang, that's what I've been doing wrong.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well he's had plenty of off the field incidents as well to support the awful person theory.

I meant before we signed him. There were certainly concerns but most of the worst stuff hadn't happened yet. Point is at the time most fans were excited.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't seem to remember too may people decrying the move when we made it. I sorta remember everyone being pretty stoked. AH was known for being an asshat on the field. Not necessarily for being the "awful person" in general that CC describes.

His draft stock dropped because of character issues.
He was known for letting loose on teammates. (i.e. he kicked his teammate in the chest)
He stomped on a dude's head.
Haynesworth caused a dude to be partially paralyzed cuz he was driving over 100mph (okay, this one can be let go, because we have/had murderers play in the NFL)
He felt up some lady (post-Redskins era)
He punched some dude, out of road rage. (post-Redskins era)

But the thing is that the awful person mentality had been there. This dude was screaming red flags.

[Evilgrin]

A moron or morons signed another moron to a stupid contract, stupidity ensued.

[Sonny9TD]

Cooley was great. Best 3rd round draft pick we have had. Damn Haynesworth for being a sorry waste of space. Damn Vinny for getting burnt on all these over the hill stars that did nothing while they were here

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Cooley was great. Best 3rd round draft pick we have had. Damn Haynesworth for being a sorry waste of space. Damn Vinny for getting burnt on all these over the hill stars that did nothing while they were here

Hopefully Jordan Reed will change that, and it looks like he is on the correct path.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Hopefully Jordan Reed will change that, and it looks like he is on the correct path.

You are correct sir.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Hopefully Jordan Reed will change that, and it looks like he is on the correct path.

He will have to get busy though. In his eight seasons with the Redskins, Cooley recorded 428 receptions for 4,703 yards and 33 touchdowns, becoming the highest scoring TE the Redskins have had. But Jordan Reed has some moves. He could very well become the next highest scoring TE the Skins have had if he keeps it up.

[SmootSmack]

How soon we forget Russ Grimm and Charles Mann